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Message-ID: <20090306190158.GC7329@nowhere>
Date:	Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:01:59 +0100
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	ltt-dev@...ts.casi.polymtl.ca,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pq@....fi>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@...gle.com>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@...ux360.ro>,
	mrubin@...gle.com, md@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 00/41] LTTng 0.105 core for Linux 2.6.27-rc9

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:34:43PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> Hi Mathieu,
> 
> Thanks for posting this. But it might be better to post in much smaller 
> chunks. Lets work out the little things first. Posting 41 patches is a bit 
> overwhelming. Took me a few hours to look at them all, and when I got to 
> the end, I forgot what was at the beginning.
> 
> There's also minor changes to core kernel infrastructure code. seq_file, 
> exporting functions, and such. These really need to be packaged 
> separately, and sent to the proper maintainers. Having them in a patch 
> bomb does not get the proper focus that they need.
> 


Yes, I must confess I tried to review some of them but I have been discouraged
by the high volume and the multiple subjects that come with.

Iterating with smaller topics at a time, more focused subjects would help us to bring
the attention it deserves.

Frederic.

 
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I spent the last 4-5 months working with the Fujitsu team at implementing the
> > tracer elements identified as goals at Kernel Summit 2008 and at the following
> > Plumber Conference. My idea was to incremententally adapt the LTTng tracer,
> > currently used in the industry and well tested, to those requirements.
> 
> We really need to work together on this too. The biggest requirement that 
> came out of that conference was to have a "single unified buffering 
> system". And this was discussed quite heavily on LKML afterwards. All 
> development was done incrementally and publicly.
> > 
> > I spent the last days rearranging/folding/inspecting the LTTng patchset
> > to prepare it for an LKML post. The version 0.105 in the LTTng git tree
> > corresponds to the patchset I am posting here. The said patchset will
> > only include the core features of LTTng, excluding the timestamping
> > infrastructure (trace clock) and excluding the instrumentation.
> > 
> > The corresponding git tree contains also the trace clock patches and the lttng
> > instrumentation. The trace clock is required to use the tracer, but it can be
> > used without the instrumentation : there is already a kprobes and userspace
> > event support included in this patchset.
> > 
> > This tracer exports binary data through buffers using splice(). The resulting
> > binary files can be parsed from userspace because the format string metadata is
> > exported in the files. The event set can be enhanced by adding tracepoints to
> > the kernel code and by creating probe modules, which connects callbacks to the
> > tracepoints and contain the format string metainformation. Those callbacks are
> > responsible for writing the data in the trace buffers. This separation between
> > the trace buffer format string and the tracepoints is done on purpose so the
> > core kernel instrumentation (tracepoints) is not exported to userspace, which
> > will make maintainance much easier.
> 
> I've discussed this in my previous email. There is still a separation with
> the TRACE_EVENT_FORMAT and the maintainers code. The format sting is 
> "hint" only and may change without notice. LTTng could use it or ignore 
> it, it is up to the tracer to actually export that string. ftrace chose to 
> export it because it was a simple way to extract that information. My 
> utility will need to do a bit more work when the events get more complex, 
> but the way it is set up, we can do that on a case by case basis.
> 
> 
> > 
> > The tree including the trace clock patches is available at :
> > 
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/compudj/linux-2.6-lttng.git
> > branch : 2.6.29-rc7-lttng-0.105
> > 
> > Project website : http://www.lttng.org/
> > 
> > Information about how to install and use the tracer is available at :
> > 
> > http://ltt.polymtl.ca/svn/trunk/lttv/LTTngManual.html
> > 
> > The size of the LTTng core patchset is 41 patches. The diffstat details
> > as follow :
> 
> 
> Again, this is overwhelming. This needs to be broken up into a small 
> subsets that can be examined piece by piece.
> 
> > 
> >  include/linux/ltt-core.h                                  |   35 
> >  include/linux/ltt-relay.h                                 |  161 +
> >  include/linux/ltt-tracer.h                                |   43 
> >  include/linux/marker.h                                    |  121 
> >  kernel/marker.c                                           |  353 ++
> >  kernel/module.c                                           |   31 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/Documentation/markers.txt                 |   17 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/MAINTAINERS                               |    7 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/Makefile                                  |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/powerpc/kernel/traps.c               |    5 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/powerpc/platforms/cell/spufs/spufs.h |    6 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/sparc/Makefile                       |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/x86/kernel/dumpstack.c               |    5 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/x86/mm/fault.c                       |    1 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/fsync.c                           |    8 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/ialloc.c                          |   17 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/inode.c                           |   79 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/mballoc.c                         |   71 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/mballoc.h                         |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/super.c                           |    6 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/jbd2/checkpoint.c                      |    7 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/jbd2/commit.c                          |   12 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/pipe.c                                 |    5 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/select.c                               |   41 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/seq_file.c                             |   45 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/splice.c                               |    1 
> 
> There is a lot of code above that needs to be in their own patch series.
> Maintainers do not have the time to pick through 41 patches to find out 
> which patch might deal with their code.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Steve
> 
> 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/immediate.h                 |   94 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/kvm_host.h                  |   12 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-channels.h              |   94 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-core.h                  |   47 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-relay.h                 |  186 +
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-tracer.h                |  731 ++++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-type-serializer.h       |  107 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/marker.h                    |   16 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/module.h                    |    6 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/poll.h                      |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/seq_file.h                  |   20 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/trace/ext4.h                      |  129 +
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/include/trace/jbd2.h                      |   19 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/init/Kconfig                              |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/kallsyms.c                         |    1 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/marker.c                           |   12 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/module.c                           |   32 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/Kconfig                               |  130 +
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/Makefile                              |   15 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-channels.c                        |  338 ++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-core.c                            |  101 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-filter.c                          |   66 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-kprobes.c                         |  479 +++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-marker-control.c                  |  265 ++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-relay-alloc.c                     |  715 +++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-relay-locked.c                    | 1704 ++++++++++++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-serialize.c                       |  685 +++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-trace-control.c                   | 1061 ++++++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-tracer.c                          | 1210 +++++++++
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-type-serializer.c                 |   96 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-userspace-event.c                 |  131 +
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/Makefile                  |    2 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/marker-example.c          |    4 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/probe-example.c           |   10 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/test-multi.c              |  120 
> >  linux-2.6-lttng/virt/kvm/kvm_trace.c                      |   12 
> >  ltt/Kconfig                                               |   24 
> >  ltt/Makefile                                              |    2 
> >  ltt/ltt-relay-alloc.c                                     |   80 
> >  65 files changed, 9445 insertions(+), 398 deletions(-)
> > 
> > 
> > Comments are welcome.
> > 
> > Mathieu
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mathieu Desnoyers
> > OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68
> > 

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