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Message-id: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903091307200.16491@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:11:56 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
To:	Richard Hughes <hughsient@...il.com>
Cc:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@...l.ru>,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	hal@...ts.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] toshiba_acpi: Add full hotkey support

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Richard Hughes wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 08:19:51PM +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> Mapping KEY_SUSPEND to hibernate is just insane. Can you please change
> >> the toshiba driver to use KEY_HIBERNATE and KEY_SUSPEND as thinkpad
> >> now does? Thanks.
> >
> > Mapping KEY_SUSPEND to hibernate is what we've been doing for years.
> > It's what hal *still does*.
> 
> Sure, but how much userspace now listens to HAL for these events? Xorg
> and evdev has taken over that role for all the session. We can ship a
> trivial patch as an fdi file to HAL to remap this if required.
> 
> > KEY_SLEEP has been the suspend to RAM key forever.
> 
> Except if you're a USB keyboard. Grep through the kernel sources and
> see how many drivers get this wrong. We can't map three sleep states
> to two buttons in any sane way. For instance, is the sleep acpi button
> supposed to trigger a suspend of hibernate? Surely this is user policy
> as it is not specified on the the exterior of the machine.

While hot-keys are totally platform dependent and non-standard,
the ACPI spec does describe the power and sleep button.

Unfortunately, it doesn't answer this question for us --
stating that the sleep button enters G1, which can be
any of S1-S4.

Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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