linux-kernel - Re: How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: What can OpenVZ do?

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Message-ID: <49BA8013.3030103@free.fr>
Date:	Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:47:31 +0100
From:	Cedric Le Goater <legoater@...e.fr>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
CC:	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
	containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org, hpa@...or.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, mingo@...e.hu, mpm@...enic.com,
	tglx@...utronix.de, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, xemul@...nvz.org
Subject: Re: How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: What can OpenVZ
 do?


> No, what you're suggesting does not suffice.

probably. I'm still trying to understand what you mean below :)

Man, I hate these hierarchicals pid_ns. one level would have been enough, 
just one vpid attribute in 'struct pid*'
 
> Call
> (5591,3,1) the task knows as 5591 in the init_pid_ns, 3 in a child pid
> ns, and 1 in grandchild pid_ns created from there.  Now assume we are
> checkpointing tasks T1=(5592,1), and T2=(5594,3,1).
> 
> We don't care about the first number in the tuples, so they will be
> random numbers after the recreate. 

yes.

> But we do care about the second numbers.  

yes very much and we need a way set these numbers in alloc_pid()

> But specifying CLONE_NEWPID while recreating the process tree
> in userspace does not allow you to specify the 3 in (5594,3,1).

I haven't looked closely at hierarchical pid namespaces but as we're
using a an array of pid indexed but the pidns level, i don't see why 
it shouldn't be possible. you might be right.

anyway, I think that some CLONE_NEW* should be forbidden. Daniel should
send soon a little patch for the ns_cgroup restricting the clone flags
being used in a container.

Cheers,

C.

> Or are you suggesting that you'll do a dummy clone of (5594,2) so that
> the next clone(CLONE_NEWPID) will be expected to be (5594,3,1)?
> 
> -serge

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