linux-kernel - Re: Linux 2.6.29

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Message-ID: <20090324151825.0570f37a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:18:25 +0000
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	David Rees <drees76@...il.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@...gh.cc>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29

> Surely the elevator should have reordered the writes reasonably?  (Or
> is that what you meant by "the other one -- #8636 (I assume this is a
> kernel Bugzilla #?) seems to be a bug in the I/O schedulers as it goes
> away if you use a different I/O sched.?")

There are two cases there. One is a bug #8636 (kernel bugzilla) which is
where things like dump show awful performance with certain I/O scheduler
settings. That seems to be totally not connected to the fs but it is a
problem (and has a patch)

The second one the elevator is clearly trying to sort out but its
behaving as if someone is writing the file starting at say 0 and someone
else is trying to write it back starting some large distance further down
the file. The elevator can only do so much then.

> Yeah, I could see that doing it.  How big is the image, and out of
> curiosity, can you run the fsync-tester.c program I posted while

150MB+ for the pnm files from gimp used as temporaries by Eve (Etch
Validation Engine), more like 10MB for xcf/tif files.

> saving the gimp image, and tell me how much of a delay you end up
> seeing?

Added to the TODO list once I can set up a suitable test box (my new dev
box is somewhere between Dell and my desk right now)

> More testing would be appreciated --- and yeah, we need to groom the
> bugzilla.  

I'm currently doing this on a large scale (closed about 300 so far this
run). Bug 8147 might be worth a look as its a case where the jbd locking
and the jbd comments seem to disagree (the comments say you must hold a
lock but we don't seem to)
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