linux-kernel - Re: Linux 2.6.29

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903241218130.3032@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	David Rees <drees76@...il.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@...gh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Theodore Tso wrote:
>
> With ext2 after a system crash you need to run fsck.  With ext4, fsck
> isn't an issue,

Bah. A corrupt filesystem is a corrupt filesystem. Whether you have to 
fsck it or not should be a secondary concern.

I personally find silent corruption to be _worse_ than the non-silent one. 
At least if there's some program that says "oops, your inode so-and-so 
seems to be scrogged" that's better than just silently having bad data in 
it.

Of course, never having bad data _nor_ needing fsck is clearly optimal. 
data=ordered gets pretty close (and data=journal is unacceptable for 
performance reasons).

But I really don't understand filesystem people who think that "fsck" is 
the important part, regardless of whether the data is valid or not. That's 
just stupid and _obviously_ bogus.

			Linus
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