lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <28c262360903270437l72cd31e1ja2daf00dbcf29675@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:37:37 +0900
From:	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhltc@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Question about PRIVATE_FUTEX

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 19:56 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>
>> >> Then, get_futex_value_locked calls __cpy_from_user_inatomic with
>> >> pagefault_disable.
>> >>
>> >> Who make sure the user page is mapped at app's page table ?
>> >
>> > Nobody, all uses of get_futex_value_locked() have to deal with it
>> > returning -EFAULT.
>>
>> Does It mean that __copy_from_user_inatomic in get_futex_value_locked
>> would be failed rather than sleep?
>
> Correct.
>
>> In fact, I don't make sure _copy_from_user_inatomic function's meaning.
>> As far as I understand, It never sleep. It just can be failed in case
>> of user page isn't mapped. Is right ?
>
> Correct.
>
>> Otherwise, it can be scheduled with pagefault_disable which increments
>> preempt_count. It is a atomic bug.
>> If my assume is right, it can be failed rather than sleep.
>> At this case, other architecture implements __copy_from_user_inatomic
>> with __copy_from_user which can be scheduled. It also can be bug.
>>
>> Hmm, Now I am confusing.
>
> Confused I guess ;-)
> The trick is in the in_atomic() check in the pagefault handler and the
> fixup section of the copy routines.

Whew~,  There was good hidden trick.
I will dive into this assembly.
I always thanks for your kindness. :)

> #define __copy_user(to, from, size)                                     \
> do {                                                                    \
>        int __d0, __d1, __d2;                                           \
>        __asm__ __volatile__(                                           \
>                "       cmp  $7,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       jbe  1f\n"                                      \
>                "       movl %1,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       negl %0\n"                                      \
>                "       andl $7,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       subl %0,%3\n"                                   \
>                "4:     rep; movsb\n"                                   \
>                "       movl %3,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       shrl $2,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       andl $3,%3\n"                                   \
>                "       .align 2,0x90\n"                                \
>                "0:     rep; movsl\n"                                   \
>                "       movl %3,%0\n"                                   \
>                "1:     rep; movsb\n"                                   \
>                "2:\n"                                                  \
>                ".section .fixup,\"ax\"\n"                              \
>                "5:     addl %3,%0\n"                                   \
>                "       jmp 2b\n"                                       \
>                "3:     lea 0(%3,%0,4),%0\n"                            \
>                "       jmp 2b\n"                                       \
>                ".previous\n"                                           \
>                ".section __ex_table,\"a\"\n"                           \
>                "       .align 4\n"                                     \
>                "       .long 4b,5b\n"                                  \
>                "       .long 0b,3b\n"                                  \
>                "       .long 1b,2b\n"                                  \
>                ".previous"                                             \
>                : "=&c"(size), "=&D" (__d0), "=&S" (__d1), "=r"(__d2)   \
>                : "3"(size), "0"(size), "1"(to), "2"(from)              \
>                : "memory");                                            \
> } while (0)
>
> see that __ex_table section, it tells the fault handler where to
> continue in case of an atomic fault.
>
>> > Most of this is legacy btw, from when futex ops were done under the
>> > mmap_sem. Back then we couldn't fault because that would cause mmap_sem
>> > recursion. Howver, now that we don't hold mmap_sem anymore we could use
>> > a faulting user access like get_user().
>> > Darren has been working on patches to clean that up, some of those are
>> > already merged in the -tip tree.
>>
>> Thanks for good information.
>> It will be very desirable way to enhance kernel performance.
>
> I doubt it'll make a measurable difference, if you need to fault
> performance sucks anyway. If you don't, the current code is just as
> fast.
>



-- 
Kinds regards,
Minchan Kim

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ