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Date:	Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:00:56 +0000
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Rees <drees76@...il.com>, Jesper Krogh <jesper@...gh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29

> > Far too many people don't - and it is unfortunate but people should learn
> > to write quality software.
> 
> You're ignoring reality.
> 
> Your definition of "quality software" is PURE SH*T.

Actually "pure sh*t" is most of the software currently written. The more
code I read the happier I get that the lawmakers are finally sick of it
and going to make damned sure software is subject to liability law. Boy
will that improve things.

> Alan, just please face that reality, and think about it for a moment. If 
> fsync() was instantaneous, this discussion wouldn't exist. But read the 
> thread. We're talking 3-5s under NORMAL load, with peaks of minutes.

The peaks of minutes is a bug. The 3-5 seconds is the thread discussion.

Alan
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