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Message-ID: <20090329130251.GF15492@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:02:51 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@...ia.com>
Cc:	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@...dex.ru>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS)

On Sun 2009-03-29 16:00:45, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> 2. create/write/rename leads to empty files
>>>> ..but this should not be. If we want to make that explicit, we should
>>>> provide "replace()" operation; where replace is rename that makes sure
>>>> that source file is completely on media before commiting the rename.
>>> Well, OK, we can fsync() before rename, we just need clean rules
>>> for this, so that all Linux FSes would follow them. Would be nice
>>> to have final agreement on all this stuff.
>>
>> My proposal is 
>>
>> rename() stays.
>
> It stays and:
>
> 1. does _not_ fsync

Does not fsync. If someone wants to make sure one of the files is on
the disk, he should use replace(). [On non-linux systems, replace()
should be implemented as fsync/rename in libc or something.]
									Pavel
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