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Message-Id: <200903310000.11522.hpj@urpla.net>
Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:00:10 +0200
From:	"Hans-Peter Jansen" <hpj@...la.net>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@...ycom.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, arjan@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29

Am Freitag, 27. März 2009 schrieb Linus Torvalds:

> In other words, the main Makefile version is totally useless in
> non-linear development, and is meaningful _only_ at specific release
> times. In between releases, it's essentially a random thing, since
> non-linear development means that versioning simply fundamentally isn't
> some simple monotonic numbering. And this is exactly when
> CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is a huge deal.

Well, you guys always see things from a deeply involved kernel developer 
_using git_ POV - which I do understand and accept (unlike hats nobody can 
change his head after all ;-), but there are other approaches to kernel 
source code, e.g. git is also really great for tracking the kernel 
development without any further involvement apart from using the resulting 
trees.

I build kernel rpms from your git tree, and have a bunch of BUILDs lying 
around. Sure, I can always fetch the tarballs or fiddle with git, but why? 
Having a Makefile start commit allows to make sure with simplest tools, 
say "head Makefile" that a locally copied 2.6.29 tree is really a 2.6.29, 
and not something moving towards the next release. That's all, nothing 
less, nothing more, it's just a strong hint which blend is in the box.

I always wonder, why Arjan does not intervene for his kerneloops.org 
project, since your approach opens a window of uncertainty during the merge 
window when simply using git as an efficient fetch tool.

Ducks and hides now,
Pete
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