linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 5/6] perf_counter: add more context information

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Date:	Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:16:36 -0700
From:	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
CC:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] perf_counter: add more context information

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:53 -0700, Corey Ashford wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 13:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:25 -0700, Corey Ashford wrote:
>>>>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 11:12 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>>> plain text document attachment (perf_counter_callchain_context.patch)
>>>>>>> Put in counts to tell which ips belong to what context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   -----
>>>>>>>    | |  hv
>>>>>>>    | --
>>>>>>> nr | |  kernel
>>>>>>>    | --
>>>>>>>    | |  user
>>>>>>>   -----
>>>>>> Right, just realized that PERF_RECORD_IP needs something similar if one
>>>>>> if not able to derive the context from the IP itself..
>>>>>>
>>>>> Three individual bits would suffice, or you could use a two-bit code -
>>>>> 00 = user
>>>>> 01 = kernel
>>>>> 10 = hypervisor
>>>>> 11 = reserved (or perhaps unknown)
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, because of alignment, it would need to take up another 64 
>>>>> bit word, wouldn't it?  Too bad you cannot sneak the bits into the IP in 
>>>>> a machine independent way.
>>>>>
>>>>> And since you probably need a separate word, that effectively doubles 
>>>>> the amount of space taken up by IP samples (if we add a "no event 
>>>>> header" option).  Should we add another bit in the record_type field - 
>>>>> PERF_RECORD_IP_LEVEL (or similar) so that user-space apps don't have to 
>>>>> get this if they don't need it?
>>>> If we limit the event size to 64k (surely enough, right? :-), then we
>>>> have 16 more bits to play with in the header, and we could do something
>>>> like the below.
>>>>
>>>> A further possibility would also be to add an overflow bit in there,
>>>> making the full 32bit PERF_RECORD space available to output events as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Index: linux-2.6/include/linux/perf_counter.h
>>>> ===================================================================
>>>> --- linux-2.6.orig/include/linux/perf_counter.h
>>>> +++ linux-2.6/include/linux/perf_counter.h
>>>> @@ -201,9 +201,17 @@ struct perf_counter_mmap_page {
>>>>  	__u32   data_head;		/* head in the data section */
>>>>  };
>>>>  
>>>> +enum {
>>>> +	PERF_EVENT_LEVEL_HV	= 0,
>>>> +	PERF_EVENT_LEVEL_KERNEL = 1,
>>>> +	PERF_EVENT_LEVEL_USER	= 2,
>>>> +};
>>>> +
>>>>  struct perf_event_header {
>>>>  	__u32	type;
>>>> -	__u32	size;
>>>> +	__u16	level		:  2,
>>>> +		__reserved	: 14;
>>>> +	__u16	size;
>>>>  };
>>> Except we should probably use masks again instead of bitfields so that
>>> the thing is portable when streamed to disk, such as would be common
>>> with splice().
>> One downside of this approach is that you if you specify "no header" 
>> (currently not possible, but maybe later?), you will not be able to get 
>> the level bits.
> 
> Would this be desirable? I know we've mentioned it before, but it would
> mean one cannot mix various event types (currently that means !mmap and
> callchain with difficulty).

I think it would.  For one use case I'm working on right now, simple 
profiling, all I need are ip's.  If I could omit the header, that would 
reduce the frequency of sigio's by a factor of three, and make it faster 
to read up the ip's when the SIGIO's occur.

I realize that it makes it impossible to mix record types with the 
header removed, and skipping over the call chain data a bit more 
difficult (but not rocket science).

It could be made an error for the caller to specify both "no header" and 
perf_coiunter_hw_event.mmap|munmap


> 
> As long as we mandate this header, we can have 16 misc bits.
> 

True.

- Corey

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