Message-ID: <20090413225542.GJ8514@elte.hu>
Date:	Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:55:42 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC 0/3] Improvements to the tracing documentation


* Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:31:24PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Cool. [ And i guess you'll like the per tracepoint filter 
> > expressions too :-) ]
> 
> I haven't played with them yet, but I was looking over the source 
> code at them (since they aren't documented yet :-).  It looks like 
> at the moment only integer matches are allowed, right?  That's a 
> bit of an issue for me, since one of the things I'd really like to 
> be able to do is filter based on devname (i.e., sda2).  (Most of 
> the time we only want to collect information for a particular 
> block device or filesystem.)

You can already do:

 aldebaran:/debug/tracing/events/sched/sched_process_wait> echo "comm == Xorg" > filter 
 aldebaran:/debug/tracing/events/sched/sched_process_wait> cat filter 
 comm == Xorg

But string values depends on the type of the format field - so you 
cannot do string matches on integer fields.

For kdev_t matches i think we'll need native support for that type - 
in addition to the integer/string types. It will come up in other 
places as well and user-space knows about devices as well.

> Actually, the fact that I'm having to drop some 32 bytes for each 
> jbd2 and ext4 trace log for the bdevname in the ring buffer is 
> really for the birds.  What I really want to do is just to drop in 
> the dev_t, and then for the tracing infrastructure to have an 
> efficient (cached) way of taking the dev_t and turning that back 
> into struct block_device at TP_printk time so we can print the 
> bdevname when it's needed.  We deifnitely don't want to be calling 
> bdget() in fs/block_dev.c each time we print a line in the tracing 
> buffer!  I'm guessing that's something the blktrace tracer would 
> find handy as well.

Yeah.

It could be worked around right now by converting it to an integer 
but i think what we want is native support for kdev_t, together with 
all the usual convenience forms of specifying it: sda1 should work 
the same way as 8:1 or 0801. Even /dev/sda1 should be recognized in 
a filter expression.

> Of course having more kernel code play with dev_t's directly isn't 
> considered politically correct in some circles, but tough.  :-) We 
> can't exactly drop a pointer to a struct block_device in the trace 
> buffer, since there's no guarantee it will still be valid when we 
> read it out.  Dropping in a dev_t is exactly what we want.  It 
> would be nice though if there was a way to specify a major/minor 
> number as the filter predicate for the dev_t, and not to have the 
> user generate the MAJOR/MINOR encoding.  So some way of parsing 
> "MKDEV(8, 4)" as the input to the filter predicate would probably 
> be a really good thing to do.

Yeah, exactly. We already have smarts in init/* to recognize certain 
device string patterns (for rootdev specification) - that could be 
factored out (it already is to a large degree) and reused. We dont 
need full udev enumeration really - we just need the most common 
variants.

Regardless of whether it's considered politically correct or not ;-) 
It's clearly useful.

	Ingo
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