linux-kernel - Re: USB storage no-boot regression (bisected)

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Message-ID: <20090414194414.22c63728@infradead.org>
Date:	Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:44:14 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	Linux USB kernel mailing list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: USB storage no-boot regression (bisected)

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:28 -0400
Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org> wrote:

> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > This change just made it go faster enough for you to be out of luck;
> > fundamentally your userland needs to wait if the device it wants is
> > not there. 
> 
> All these drivers are in-kernel, and the root device is passed via 
> command line.  There is no userland at that point, that needs to wait.

ok fair; but that does not change that the kernel does not know if a
device is coming.
Yes that sucks; sadly USB is just this way, you don't know when no new
devices will come from a certain bus.

> 
> If this change added an implicit initramfs requirement, that is a
> pretty major regression.

it didn't; this is what root_wait is for.


Having said that, I have a patch that basically retries this stuff
inside the kernel if the mount-of-rootfs fails....

(but it's independent of the usb improvement)

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