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Date:	Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:11:51 +0100
From:	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>
To:	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>,
	Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/22] Do not sanity check order in the fast path

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 09:13:11AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 14:53 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > No user of the allocator API should be passing in an order >= MAX_ORDER
> > but we check for it on each and every allocation. Delete this check and
> > make it a VM_BUG_ON check further down the call path.
> 
> Should we get the check re-added to some of the upper-level functions,
> then?  Perhaps __get_free_pages() or things like alloc_pages_exact()? 
> 

I don't think so, no. It just moves the source of the text bloat and
for the few callers that are asking for something that will never
succeed.

> I'm selfishly thinking of what I did in profile_init().  Can I slab
> alloc it?  Nope.  Page allocator?  Nope.  Oh, well, try vmalloc():
> 
>         prof_buffer = kzalloc(buffer_bytes, GFP_KERNEL);
>         if (prof_buffer)
>                 return 0;
> 
>         prof_buffer = alloc_pages_exact(buffer_bytes, GFP_KERNEL|__GFP_ZERO);
>         if (prof_buffer)
>                 return 0;
> 
>         prof_buffer = vmalloc(buffer_bytes);
>         if (prof_buffer)
>                 return 0;
> 
>         free_cpumask_var(prof_cpu_mask);
>         return -ENOMEM;
> 

Can this ever actually be asking for an order larger than MAX_ORDER
though? If so, you're condemning it to always behave poorly.

> Same thing in __kmalloc_section_memmap():
> 
>         page = alloc_pages(GFP_KERNEL|__GFP_NOWARN, get_order(memmap_size));
>         if (page)
>                 goto got_map_page;
> 
>         ret = vmalloc(memmap_size);
>         if (ret)
>                 goto got_map_ptr;
> 

If I'm reading that right, the order will never be a stupid order. It can fail
for higher orders in which case it falls back to vmalloc() .  For example,
to hit that limit, the section size for a 4K kernel, maximum usable order
of 10, the section size would need to be 256MB (assuming struct page size
of 64 bytes). I don't think it's ever that size and if so, it'll always be
sub-optimal which is a poor choice to make.

> I depend on the allocator to tell me when I've fed it too high of an
> order.  If we really need this, perhaps we should do an audit and then
> add a WARN_ON() for a few releases to catch the stragglers.
> 

I consider it buggy to ask for something so large that you always end up
with the worst option - vmalloc(). How about leaving it as a VM_BUG_ON
to get as many reports as possible on who is depending on this odd
behaviour?

If there are users with good reasons, then we could convert this to WARN_ON
to fix up the callers. I suspect that the allocator can already cope with
recieving a stupid order silently but slowly. It should go all the way to the
bottom and just never find anything useful and return NULL.  zone_watermark_ok
is the most dangerous looking part but even it should never get to MAX_ORDER
because it should always find there are not enough free pages and return
before it overruns.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab
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