linux-kernel - Re: get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs

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Message-ID: <20090427170314.GA9807@shareable.org>
Date:	Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:03:14 +0100
From:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl

Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:47:42PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Personally, I'm interested in the following:
> > 
> >     - A process with RT I/O priority and RT CPU priority is reading
> >       a series of files from disk.  It should be very reliable at this.
> > 
> >     - Other normal I/O priority and normal CPU priority processes are
> >       reading and writing the disk.
> > 
> > I would like the first process to have a guaranteed minimum I/O
> > performance: it should continuously make progress, even when it needs
> > to read some file metadata which overlaps a page affected by the other
> > processes.
> 
> That's pretty easy.  The much harder and much more interesting problem
> is if the process with RT I/O and CPU priority is *writing* a series
> of files to disk, and not just reading from disk.

...

> I can't think of a filesystem where we would block a
> read operation for long time just because someone was holding some
> kind of filesytem-wide lock.  A spinlock, maybe, but the only time it
> makes sense to worry about boosting an I/O priority is if we're going
> to be blocing a filesystem for milliseconds or more, and not just a
> few tens of microseconds.

...

> For the former, where a real-time read request gets blocked because
> the read request for that block had already been submitted --- at a
> lower priority --- that's something that should be solvable purely in
> core block layer and in the I/O scheduler layer, I would expect.

That's great to know, thanks.  I will poke at the block layer and I/O
scheduler then, see where it leads.

Thanks,
-- Jamie
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