linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 1/1] seccomp: Add bitmask of allowed system calls.

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Message-ID: <20090508111222.GC6417@nowhere>
Date:	Fri, 8 May 2009 13:12:23 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>
Cc:	Adam Langley <agl@...gle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, markus@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] seccomp: Add bitmask of allowed system calls.

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 12:32:25AM -0500, Tom Zanussi wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 01:00 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 03:34:58PM -0700, Adam Langley wrote:
> > > > That assessment is incorrect, there's no difference between safety
> > > > here really.
> > > >
> > > > LSM cannot magically inspect user-space memory either when multiple
> > > > threads may access it. The point would be to define filters for
> > > > system call _arguments_, which are inherently thread-local and safe.
> > > 
> > > If I hook security_operations.socket_connect, I can validate the struct
> > > sockaddr after the final copy_from_user. However, since the sockaddr lives in
> > > userspace memory, if I try and validate it from ftrace SYSCALL_ENTER, I can't
> > > know that it won't change before sys_connect reads it again.
> > > 
> > > Because of that, there are system calls which an LSM hook can safely accept
> > > that an ftrace hook cannot. However, as you point out, any arguments passed in
> > > registers are inheriently safe and these may be sufficiently powerful.
> > > 
> > > > There are two problems with the bitmap scheme, which i also
> > > > suggested in a previous thread but then found it to be lacking:
> > > >
> > > > 1) enumeration: you define a bitmap. That will be problematic
> > > >   between compat and native 64-bit (both have different syscall
> > > >   vectors).
> > > 
> > > I /think/ it works out, but I've been bitten before with subtle 32/64 bit
> > > compat issues and accept that it's a bit ugly.
> > > 
> > > > 2) flexibility. It's an on/off selection per syscall. With the
> > > >   filter we have on, off, or filtered. That's a _whole_ lot more
> > > >   flexible.
> > > 
> > > Absolutely.
> > > 
> > > Is there a git tree that I can pull this parsing code from?
> > > (git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rostedt/linux-2.6-trace.git
> > > maybe?). I can patch in the seccomp-on-ftrace work and try building the
> > > filtering on top of that. I'll see how it turns out anyway.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The most uptodate one is:
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/linux-2.6-tip.git
> > on the tracing/filters topic.
> > 
> > See kernel/trace/trace_events_filter.c
> > 
> > You might want to reuse some current syscall tracing facility.
> > An automated resolution table is built on bootime, you can look
> > at the end of arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > 
> > This table links each syscalls nr to the matching attribute entry of syscall
> > in which you can find:
> > 
> > - parameters names
> > - parameters types
> > - syscall name
> > 
>  
> I guess it would be easier for seccomp to make use of the filtering and
> reuse the syscall tracing facility if we added filtering to the syscall
> tracer first.  It would be useful to do for the syscall tracer anyway,
> regardless of whether it (or something similar) ended up being used by
> seccomp.
> 
> Frederic, did you have any plans for that?  If not, I can take a look
> when I get the chance...
> 
> Tom



You're totally right!
Well, I will not have enough time for that until next week-end. So
if you have free slots for that, don't hesitate :)

Thanks!

Frederic.


> 
> > You can look at the hooks in include/linux/syscall.h:
> > The sections inside
> > #ifdef CONFIG_FTRACE_SYSCALLS
> > 
> > Well, it's a bit insane to read, so you can also look
> > at include/trace/syscall.h and kernel/trace/trace_syscalls.c and
> > see how it is used and how it could be reused.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Frederic.
> > 
> 

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