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Message-ID: <20090514205600.GA14741@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Thu, 14 May 2009 22:56:00 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>, Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	Peter Ziljstra <a.p.ziljstra@...llo.nl>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	San Mehat <san@...roid.com>, Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@...roid.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Misleading OOM messages

On Thu 2009-05-14 15:46:50, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> > It can be 'low on memory' if you play with mlock() a bit.
> 
> But that is a reclaim failure becuase of mlocking pages.
> 
> > It is out of memory if you run out of swap (or have no swap to begin with).
> 
> That is a swap config issue.

Well, many machines are _designed_ to run without swap. Swapping on
flash is considered bad.

> > I believe message is often correct. What message would you suggest?
> 
> "Failure to reclaim memory"

That is not a helpful message, I'm afraid. What about

 "Memory allocation failure" ?
 "Out of memory, or failed to allocate memory due to temporary spike"?

									Pavel
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