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Message-ID: <ac3eb2510905220821n629314c3tb113802f52abc67c@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 May 2009 17:21:17 +0200
From:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Kyle Moffett <kyle@...fetthome.net>,
	Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@...il.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: How to tell whether a struct file is held by a process?

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 17:12, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Anyway, enumeration isn't the problem.  The real problem has two parts:
>
>        Automatic probing and binding of kernel drivers, including
>        selection and installation of a configuration (this really
>        _does_ mess up virtualization).
>
>        The fact that a window exists immediately after the
>        registration of a newly-detected device before a user
>        process can lock the device file.  During this window,
>        other processes could open the file.
>
> The second part can be solved (among cooperating processes) by use of
> port-lock files, with no kernel involvement.  The first part does
> require a kernel interface of some sort, but it wouldn't have to be
> complicated.  The mere fact that a port-lock file was open could be
> enough to prevent automatic configuration, probing, and binding.
>
> Does this seem like reasonable approach?

Would releasing the "lock" trigger a kernel-driver-binding call?

The lock will always lock all devices of a specific hub?

Thanks,
Kay
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