linux-kernel - Re: Analyzed/Solved/Bisected: Booting 2.6.30-rc2-git7 very slow

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Message-ID: <170150.72851.qm@web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 28 May 2009 02:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Martin Knoblauch <knobi@...bisoft.de>
To:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	efault@....de, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, rjw@...k.pl,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, shemminger@...tta.com,
	jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org, matthew@....cx, mike.miller@...com
Subject: Re: Analyzed/Solved/Bisected: Booting 2.6.30-rc2-git7 very slow




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Martin Knoblauch
email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de
www:   http://www.knobisoft.de



----- Original Message ----
> From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
> To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Martin Knoblauch <knobi@...bisoft.de>; efault@....de; viro@...iv.linux.org.uk; rjw@...k.pl; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; shemminger@...tta.com; jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org; matthew@....cx; mike.miller@...com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:56:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Analyzed/Solved/Bisected: Booting 2.6.30-rc2-git7 very slow
> 
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 22:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 May 2009 04:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> >
> >>  FWIW, I compiled the CCISS driver into the kernel. This makes the second 
> "/sys" line in /proc/mounts go away, dmesg attached. But does it prove anything? 
> The initialization of the CCISS hardware now happens about 2 seconds earlier in 
> the bootup sequence. Does this hint to a problem with CCISS, or just confirms 
> that the whole issue is really timing dependent? Anyway, I add Mike to CC.
> >>
> >
> > It seems that the PCI change caused timing changes which triggered a
> > udev/sysfs/whatever problem, which manifests as the duplicated
> > /proc/mounts entry to turn up.
> >
> > What we don't know (afaik) is why the kernel permitted two entries in
> > /proc/mounts.  That might be a bug.
> >
> > It could be that if dual /proc/mounts problem gets fixed, everything
> > works OK - by intent or by accident, the userspace startup scripts may
> > then work acceptably.
> >
> > I think Al asked you a few questions around the behaviour of mount(8)
> > and the mount syscall, so we could delve further into why /proc/mounts
> > is getting mucked up.  Did you end up running those tests?
> 

 I do not recall any questions from Al. If he asked, I am pretty sure I answered :-)

> I expect the duplicate comes from a left-over mount in initramfs which
> isn't a duplicate in the sense of a bug in vfs or mount or anything. I
> guess, it is just still mounted in the initial kernel rootfs, below
> the root from the disk. It could be that a umount from initramfs did
> go wrong because of a changed timing.
> 

 This is what I suspect as well. I know for sure that the first sysfs-line in /proc/mounts

| none /sys sysfs rw 0 0

is already there (2.6.29-rc1 and up) when entering startup-skripts. It is supposed to be unmounted before, but something seems to prevent it. I have idea how to capture debug output from the initrd/init script :-(

Cheers
Martin

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