linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/4] add swap cache interface for swap reference v2 (updated)

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Message-Id: <20090529155342.7fcead51.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Date:	Fri, 29 May 2009 15:53:42 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc:	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk" <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>,
	"hannes@...xchg.org" <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] add swap cache interface for swap reference v2
 (updated)

On Fri, 29 May 2009 15:05:25 +0900
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:37:58 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:08:32 +0900
> > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > IIUC, swap_free() at the end of shmem_writepage() should also be changed to swapcache_free().
> > > > 
> > > Hmm!. Oh, yes. shmem_writepage()'s error path. Thank you. It will be fixed.
> > > 
> > here. 
> > 
> Looks good to me.
> 
> 	Reviewed-by: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>
> 
> 
> BTW, I'm now testing(with swap-in/out and swap-on/off) [2/4] of this patch set.
> I think this patch set would work well, but it's a big change to swap,
> so we should test them very carefully.
> 
Indeed. 

BTW, even we ignores memcg, they are necessary change for us. ([2/4] and [3/4])

IIUC, I remember a NEC man had a story like below.

1. create 2 cpusets. A and B.
2. At first, tons of swaps are created by "A".
3. After size of applications in A shrinks, pages swapped out by "A" is now on-memory.
4. When running program in B, B can't use enough swaps because "A" uses tons of
   cache-only swaps.

Why swap_entries are not reclaimed in "4" is because cpuset divides the LRU.

I think patch [3/4] can be a sliver bullet to this problem.

Thanks,
-Kame

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