linux-kernel - Re: [perfmon2] comments on Performance Counters for Linux (PCL)

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Message-ID: <20090529071914.GB3157@elte.hu>
Date:	Fri, 29 May 2009 09:19:14 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
Cc:	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, eranian@...il.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Philip Mucci <mucci@...s.utk.edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@...ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	perfmon2-devel <perfmon2-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [perfmon2] comments on Performance Counters for Linux (PCL)


* Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar writes:
> 
> > * Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >> So you're suggesting to artificually strech periods by say 
> > >> composing a single overflow from smaller ones, ignoring the 
> > >> intermediate overflow events?
> > >>
> > >> That sounds doable, again, patch welcome.
> > >
> > > I definitely agree with Stephane's point on this one.  I had 
> > > assumed that long irq_periods (longer than the width of the 
> > > counter) would be synthesized as you suggest.  If this is not the 
> > > case, PCL should be changed so that it does, -or- at a minimum, 
> > > the user should get an error back stating that the period is too 
> > > long for the hardware counter.
> > 
> > this looks somewhat academic - at least on x86, even the fastest 
> > events (say cycles) with a 32 bit overflow means one event per 
> > second on 4GB. That's not a significant event count in practice. 
> > What's the minimum width we are talking about on Power?
> 
> 32 bits, but since the top bit is effectively a level-sensitive 
> interrupt request, the maximum period in hardware is 2^31 counts.
> 
> However, I already support 64-bit interrupt periods (well, 63-bit 
> actually) on powerpc by only calling perf_counter_overflow() when 
> counter->hw.period_left becomes <= 0, and arranging to set the 
> hardware counter to 0 if counter->hw.period_left is >= 0x80000000. 
> It's a tiny amount of code to handle it, really.

No argument about that - just wanted to know whether there's any 
real practical effect beyond the nitpicking factor ;-)

	Ingo
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