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Message-ID: <a36005b50906020822m33917c6fn5061af562b54c6c2@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:22:57 -0700
From:	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...il.com>
To:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [benchmark] 1% performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native 
	kernels

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com> wrote:
> The idea that people shipping xen aren't interested in performance
> regressions is really strange to me.

Why?  They have a different base line.  For them any regression to
bare hardware performance is even a positive (since it means the gap
between hardware and virt shrinks).


> Dynamic patching is a big wad of duct tape over the problem.

And what do you call the Xen model?  It's a perfect fit IMO.


> I'm not saying to take harmful code, I'm saying to take code with a
> small performance regression under a specific CONFIG_.  Slub regresses
> more than 1% on database loads, CONFIG_SCHED_GROUPS, the list goes on
> and on.

None of those have to be enabled in default kernels.


> The best place to fix xen is in the kernel.

No.  The best way to fix things is _on the way into the kernel_.
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