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Date:	Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:44:06 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	Nai Xia <nai.xia@...il.com>
Cc:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Elladan <elladan@...imo.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	"tytso@....edu" <tytso@....edu>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"minchan.kim@...il.com" <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first
	class  citizen

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 01:18:26AM +0800, Nai Xia wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Wu Fengguang<fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 07:20:24PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> One scenario that might be useful to test is what happens when some very large
> >> processes, all mapped and executable exceed memory and fight each other
> >> for the working set. Do you have regressions then compared to without
> >> the patches?
> >
> > I managed to carry out some stress tests for memory tight desktops.
> > The outcome is encouraging: clock time and major faults are reduced
> > by 50%, and pswpin numbers are reduced to ~1/3.
> >
> > Here is the test scenario.
> > - nfsroot gnome desktop with 512M physical memory
> > - run some programs, and switch between the existing windows after
> >  starting each new program.
> 
> I think this is a story of VM_EXEC pages fighting against other kind of pages,
> but as Andi said, did you test real regression case of VM_EXEC pages fighting
> against each other?

No. We'd better buy more memory if it's not enough for VM_EXEC pages :-)

Thanks,
Fengguang

> "
> One scenario that might be useful to test is what happens when some very large
> processes, all mapped and executable exceed memory and fight each other
> for the working set. Do you have regressions then compared to without
> the patches?
> 
> -Andi
> "
> 
> My experices with Compcache(http://code.google.com/p/compcache/) show that
> it also has similar improvement in similar case on LTSP
> (http://code.google.com/p/compcache/wiki/Performance).
> But it does has a non-trivial performance loss even when doing kernel
> compilation.
> I am not a little surprised when Andrew said it "There must be some cost
> somewhere".
> 
> So you have found the spots where your patch doing great,
> make double sure it will not do something bad in all places,
> and that will be perfect. :-)
> 
> >
> > The progress timing (seconds) is:
> >
> >  before       after    programs
> >    0.02        0.02    N xeyes
> >    0.75        0.76    N firefox
> >    2.02        1.88    N nautilus
> >    3.36        3.17    N nautilus --browser
> >    5.26        4.89    N gthumb
> >    7.12        6.47    N gedit
> >    9.22        8.16    N xpdf /usr/share/doc/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info-spec.pdf
> >   13.58       12.55    N xterm
> >   15.87       14.57    N mlterm
> >   18.63       17.06    N gnome-terminal
> >   21.16       18.90    N urxvt
> >   26.24       23.48    N gnome-system-monitor
> >   28.72       26.52    N gnome-help
> >   32.15       29.65    N gnome-dictionary
> >   39.66       36.12    N /usr/games/sol
> >   43.16       39.27    N /usr/games/gnometris
> >   48.65       42.56    N /usr/games/gnect
> >   53.31       47.03    N /usr/games/gtali
> >   58.60       52.05    N /usr/games/iagno
> >   65.77       55.42    N /usr/games/gnotravex
> >   70.76       61.47    N /usr/games/mahjongg
> >   76.15       67.11    N /usr/games/gnome-sudoku
> >   86.32       75.15    N /usr/games/glines
> >   92.21       79.70    N /usr/games/glchess
> >  103.79       88.48    N /usr/games/gnomine
> >  113.84       96.51    N /usr/games/gnotski
> >  124.40      102.19    N /usr/games/gnibbles
> >  137.41      114.93    N /usr/games/gnobots2
> >  155.53      125.02    N /usr/games/blackjack
> >  179.85      135.11    N /usr/games/same-gnome
> >  224.49      154.50    N /usr/bin/gnome-window-properties
> >  248.44      162.09    N /usr/bin/gnome-default-applications-properties
> >  282.62      173.29    N /usr/bin/gnome-at-properties
> >  323.72      188.21    N /usr/bin/gnome-typing-monitor
> >  363.99      199.93    N /usr/bin/gnome-at-visual
> >  394.21      206.95    N /usr/bin/gnome-sound-properties
> >  435.14      224.49    N /usr/bin/gnome-at-mobility
> >  463.05      234.11    N /usr/bin/gnome-keybinding-properties
> >  503.75      248.59    N /usr/bin/gnome-about-me
> >  554.00      276.27    N /usr/bin/gnome-display-properties
> >  615.48      304.39    N /usr/bin/gnome-network-preferences
> >  693.03      342.01    N /usr/bin/gnome-mouse-properties
> >  759.90      388.58    N /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties
> >  937.90      508.47    N /usr/bin/gnome-control-center
> >  1109.75      587.57    N /usr/bin/gnome-keyboard-properties
> >  1399.05      758.16    N : oocalc
> >  1524.64      830.03    N : oodraw
> >  1684.31      900.03    N : ooimpress
> >  1874.04      993.91    N : oomath
> >  2115.12     1081.89    N : ooweb
> >  2369.02     1161.99    N : oowriter
> >
> > Note that the oo* commands are actually commented out.
> >
> > The vmstat numbers are (some relevant ones are marked with *):
> >
> >                            before    after
> >  nr_free_pages              1293      3898
> >  nr_inactive_anon           59956     53460
> >  nr_active_anon             26815     30026
> >  nr_inactive_file           2657      3218
> >  nr_active_file             2019      2806
> >  nr_unevictable             4         4
> >  nr_mlock                   4         4
> >  nr_anon_pages              26706     27859
> > *nr_mapped                  3542      4469
> >  nr_file_pages              72232     67681
> >  nr_dirty                   1         0
> >  nr_writeback               123       19
> >  nr_slab_reclaimable        3375      3534
> >  nr_slab_unreclaimable      11405     10665
> >  nr_page_table_pages        8106      7864
> >  nr_unstable                0         0
> >  nr_bounce                  0         0
> > *nr_vmscan_write            394776    230839
> >  nr_writeback_temp          0         0
> >  numa_hit                   6843353   3318676
> >  numa_miss                  0         0
> >  numa_foreign               0         0
> >  numa_interleave            1719      1719
> >  numa_local                 6843353   3318676
> >  numa_other                 0         0
> > *pgpgin                     5954683   2057175
> > *pgpgout                    1578276   922744
> > *pswpin                     1486615   512238
> > *pswpout                    394568    230685
> >  pgalloc_dma                277432    56602
> >  pgalloc_dma32              6769477   3310348
> >  pgalloc_normal             0         0
> >  pgalloc_movable            0         0
> >  pgfree                     7048396   3371118
> >  pgactivate                 2036343   1471492
> >  pgdeactivate               2189691   1612829
> >  pgfault                    3702176   3100702
> > *pgmajfault                 452116    201343
> >  pgrefill_dma               12185     7127
> >  pgrefill_dma32             334384    653703
> >  pgrefill_normal            0         0
> >  pgrefill_movable           0         0
> >  pgsteal_dma                74214     22179
> >  pgsteal_dma32              3334164   1638029
> >  pgsteal_normal             0         0
> >  pgsteal_movable            0         0
> >  pgscan_kswapd_dma          1081421   1216199
> >  pgscan_kswapd_dma32        58979118  46002810
> >  pgscan_kswapd_normal       0         0
> >  pgscan_kswapd_movable      0         0
> >  pgscan_direct_dma          2015438   1086109
> >  pgscan_direct_dma32        55787823  36101597
> >  pgscan_direct_normal       0         0
> >  pgscan_direct_movable      0         0
> >  pginodesteal               3461      7281
> >  slabs_scanned              564864    527616
> >  kswapd_steal               2889797   1448082
> >  kswapd_inodesteal          14827     14835
> >  pageoutrun                 43459     21562
> >  allocstall                 9653      4032
> >  pgrotated                  384216    228631
> >  htlb_buddy_alloc_success   0         0
> >  htlb_buddy_alloc_fail      0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_culled     0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_scanned    0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_rescued    0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_mlocked    4         4
> >  unevictable_pgs_munlocked  0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_cleared    0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_stranded   0         0
> >  unevictable_pgs_mlockfreed 0         0
> >
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