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Message-ID: <20090613090240.GA29484@elf.ucw.cz> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:02:40 +0200 From: Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> To: Ben Dooks <ben@...ff.org> Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, swetland@...gle.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk, san@...roid.com, rlove@...gle.com Subject: Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support nOn Sat 2009-06-13 01:30:16, Ben Dooks wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:24:45PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:15:10AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > > > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:38 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:00:30AM -0700, David Miller wrote: > > > > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk> > > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:49:12 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > I can not keep up with the number of patches that need to be > > > > > > reviewed and ultimately merged. I know this, and I freely admit it, > > > > > > and I have done so on many occasions. > > > > > > > > > > Then split up the responsibilities to other people instead of being > > > > > the choke point. Controlling everything isn't so important. > > > > > > > > Don't you think that I've been trying to get other people to be more > > > > involved? > > > > > > > > - I've been pushing people to send patches to the relevent mailing > > > > list(s) and maintainer(s) for years. > > > > > > > > - I've been pushing people to send their ARM patches to the ARM > > > > mailing list rather than directly into the patch system for review > > > > (it even has a comment telling people this) so that others can get > > > > involved in reviewing them, and sharing that work load. > > > > > > > > Do you think either have been anywhere near successful? > > > [] > > > > I've been trying to get greater participation > > > > but it's just not happening. > > > > > > I suggest you stop using subscriber-only mailing lists and > > > use linux-arm@...r.kernel.org. > > > > This is main point here is to offload Russell. > > One way to offload Russell is to have competent people reviewing platform > > code for ARM. This is best done by other platform people. > > Me and you - we can helpt. But the people where we need higher > > involvement are already on the list. > > Personally, I'm not on linux-arm@...r.kernel.org and don't plan on > being there either. If people are too stupid to read the maintainers > entry and realise that linux-arm-kernel is moderated and they might > thus have to subscribe to post there then they can be safely ignored. Really? So IDE maintainers have to subscribe before when they want to discuss ARM&CF issues? Sleep maintainers have to subscribe when they want to discuss sleep&ARM? You are offending people by first adding unneccessary & annoying steps to their workflow, and then calling them "too stupid" if they don't follow your stupid rules. (Sometimes subscribing takes _weeks_!) Yes, everyone should just join linux-arm@...r.kernel.org. What is the _advantage_ of heave heavilly moderated mailing list? Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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