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Date:	Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:42:54 +0200
From:	Marco <marco.stornelli@...il.com>
To:	Bryan Henderson <hbryan@...ibm.com>
CC:	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@...il.com>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@....ucsc.edu>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem

Bryan Henderson wrote:
>> Marco wrote:
>>>    To enable direct
>>>    I/O at all times for all regular files requires either that
>>>    applications be modified to include the O_DIRECT flag on all file
>>>    opens, or that a new filesystem be used that always performs direct
>>>    I/O by default."
>> This could be done as well by just introducing a "direct_io_only"
>> mount option to a file-system which would need this feature.
> 
> But it's possible that there's just no advantage to having a block device 
> in the stack here.  When unix block devices were invented, their main 
> purpose was that they could reorder reads and writes and do buffering and 
> caching -- all things essential for disk drives.  We don't want to stretch 
> the concept too far.
> 

Yes I agree, we can't in this case talk about read and write reordering,
buffering and caching because we're talking about something completely
different from a classic disk. The issues of this kind of fs are more
similar to the tmpfs issues.

Marco
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