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Date:	Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:12:07 -0400
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	mingo@...hat.com, paulus@...ba.org, acme@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, penberg@...helsinki.fi,
	vegard.nossum@...il.com, efault@....de, jeremy@...p.org,
	npiggin@...e.de, tglx@...utronix.de,
	linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:perfcounters/core] perf_counter: x86: Fix call-chain
	support to use NMI-safe methods

* Ingo Molnar (mingo@...e.hu) wrote:
> 
> * H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
> 
> > Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > >>>
> > >> Writing control registers is serializing, so it's a lot more expensive
> > >> than writing a normal register; my *guess* is that it will be on the
> > >> order of 100-200 cycles.
> > >>
> > >> That is not based on any actual information.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Then how about just writing to the cr2 register *if* it has changed
> > > while the NMI handler was running ?
> > > 
> > > if (unlikely(read_cr2() != saved_cr2)))
> > > 	write_cr2(saved_cr2)
> > > 
> > > Mathieu
> > > 
> > 
> > That works fine, obviously, and although it's probably overkill 
> > it's also a trivially cheap optimization.
> 
> Writing cr2 costs 84 cycles so it's not overkill at all - it's a 
> nice optimization!
> 
> Btw., we dont have to re-read it - we actually _know_ when we got a 
> fault (the fault handler gives us back an error code).
> 

Just for the sake of making NMI handlers less tricky, supporting page
faults caused by faulting kernel instructions (rather than only
supporting explicit faulting from get_user_pages_inatomic) would be
rather nice design-wise if it only costs 2-3 cycles.

And I would not want to touch the page fault handler itself to write the
saved cr2 value before the handler exits, because this would add a
branch on a very hot path.

Mathieu

> So we can do this common optimization and avoid the cr2 write 
> usually. We only need the cr2 read.
> 
> Hm, tempting ...
> 
> 	Ingo

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