linux-kernel - Re: I.3 - Multiplexing and system-wide

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Message-ID: <20090622115102.GD24366@elte.hu>
Date:	Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:51:02 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	eranian@...il.com
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@....com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@...ibm.com>,
	Carl Love <cel@...ibm.com>,
	Corey J Ashford <cjashfor@...ibm.com>,
	Philip Mucci <mucci@...s.utk.edu>,
	Dan Terpstra <terpstra@...s.utk.edu>,
	perfmon2-devel <perfmon2-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: I.3 - Multiplexing and system-wide

> 3/ Multiplexing and system-wide
>
> Multiplexing is time-based and it is hooked into the timer tick.
> At every tick, the kernel tries to schedule another set of event
> groups.
>
> In tickless kernels if a CPU is idle, no timer tick is generated,
> therefore no multiplexing occurs. This is incorrect. It's not
> because the CPU is idle, that there aren't any interesting PMU
> events to measure. Parts of the CPU may still be active, e.g.,
> caches and buses. And thus, it is expected that multiplexing still
> happens.
>
> You need to hook up the timer source for multiplexing to something
> else which is not affected by tickless. You cannot simply disable
> tickless during a measurement because you would not be measuring
> the system as it actually behaves.

There is only a very small difference between inhibiting nohz and
waking up the machine using timers on the same interval.

Using the scheduler tick to round-robin counters is a first-level
approximation we use: it in essence corresponds to multiplexing
counters along a cycle cost metric. If there's sufficient interest
we can drive the round-robining by the PMU itself: this makes it HZ
and dynticks invariant.

The simplified multiplexing we offer now certainly works well enough
in practice - if there's interest we can expand it.
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