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Message-ID: <20090623092812.16dffa97@jbarnes-g45>
Date:	Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:28:12 -0700
From:	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>
To:	unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)
Cc:	Michel Dänzer <michel@...nzer.net>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Thomas@...line-mail2.netline.ch, Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@....edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>, dri-devel@...ts.sf.net,
	Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm: previous pull req + 1.

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:39:44 -0700
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:48:00 +0200
> Michel Dänzer <michel@...nzer.net> wrote:
> > On a side note, I did precisely that about ten years ago on my
> > Amiga. :) Granted, that was using two separate framebuffer devices
> > (X glint driver on top of pm2fb, debug messages on amifb), but I
> > think even that case isn't possible ATM. I agree it would be nice,
> > though realistically there's hardly a way around a second machine
> > for graphics driver development anyway.
> 
> Oh I know, most operating systems have reasonable debugging
> facilities, and have had for a long time.  Linux is the one lagging
> here.
> 
Heh, I saw "amiga" and stopped reading.  So it seems Linux on x86 is
the main laggard here...  I know PPC has had interesting debug features
for awhile now, and most arches have had kgdb for a long time.  Anyway,
there's plenty of work to do in this area to give Linux a decent system
level debugger...

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Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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