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Message-Id: <1245715299.4017.15.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:01:39 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Thomas Hellström <thomas@...pmail.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@....edu>, dri-devel@...ts.sf.net,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm: previous pull req + 1.

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:22 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Not going to happen.
> 
> Why? 'printk'.
> 
> If you can't handle printk, then you're basically useless. And printk 
> absolutely -has- to work in bad situations (the most important
> messages could happen in any context).

Well... yes and no. If X is frontmost, printk is not going to be
printed, ie, I'm talking about today, when the console is !KD_TEXT.

There -is- a mechanism to deal with these things today, and the console
semaphore does take care of accesses to the fb.

(That doesn't exclude having the ability to force-switch back to kernel
fb for printing things like oops btw, which KMS could do, but for basic
access control, it makes sense).

Cheers,
Ben.


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