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Date:	Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:48:51 -0400
From:	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@...il.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, rgetz@...ckfin.uclinux.org,
	lethal@...ux-sh.org, gerg@...inux.org,
	uclinux-dist-devel@...ckfin.uclinux.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] FDPIC: Ignore the loader's PT_GNU_STACK when calculating 
	the stack size

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 23:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2009-07-08 12:01:40, David Howells wrote:
>> Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
>>
>> > The patch seems wrong to me; loader needs the stack, too, right?
>> >
>> > What about making sure that the loader specifies reasonable stack
>> > size, instead?
>>
>> The loader doesn't need its own stack, unless it _is_ the executable.  It uses
>> the executable's stack.  The problem is that the executable and the loader can
>> both specify the stack size for NOMMU, but which one do we pick, or do we
>> consider both.
>
> Imageine loader needs 64K, while executable only needs 4K. You surely
> want to execute it with 64K stack, because it will not fit into 4K?

i really dont think this is realistic.  there is exactly one ldso that
everyone uses under FDPIC ELF, and it needs a very minuscule stack.
-mike
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