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Message-Id: <1247149093.21295.915.camel@calx>
Date:	Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:18:13 -0500
From:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Anton Vorontsov <avorontsov@...mvista.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, oleg@...hat.com,
	mingo@...e.hu, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netpoll: Fix carrier detection for drivers that are
 using phylib

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:46 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 08:26 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 17:01 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Anton Vorontsov wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The netpoll code is using msleep() just a few lines below cond_resched(),
> > > > so we won't make things worse. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Yeah. That function is definitely sleeping. It does things like 
> > > kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL), rtnl_lock() and synchronize_rcu() etc too, so an 
> > > added msleep() is the least of our problems.
> > > 
> > > Afaik, it's called from a bog-standard "module_init()", which happens late 
> > > enough that everything works.
> > > 
> > > In fact, I wonder if we should set SYSTEM_RUNNING much earlier - _before_ 
> > > doing the whole "do_initcalls()".
> > 
> > Well there are two ways of consistently defining SYSTEM_RUNNING:
> > 
> > a) define it with reference to the well-understood notion of booting vs
> > running and don't switch it until handing off to init
> 
> This makes the most sense IMHO.
> 
> > b) define it with reference to its usage by an arbitrary user like
> > cond_resched()
> > 
> > In the latter case, we obviously need to move it to the earliest point
> > that scheduling is possible. But there are a number of things like 
> > 
> > http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/kernel/printk.c#L228
> > 
> > that assume the definition is actually (a). We're currently within a
> > couple lines of a strict definition of (a) already, so I actually think
> > cond_resched() is just wrong (and we already know it broke a
> > previously-working user). It should perhaps be using another private
> > flag that gets set as soon as scheduling is up and running.
> 
> Right as mentioned before in this thread, we grew scheduler_running a
> while back which could be used for this.
> 
> > But I'd actually go further and say that it's unfortunate to be checking
> > extra flags in such an important inline, especially since the check is
> > false for all but the first couple seconds of run time. Seems like we
> > could avoid adding an extra check by artificially elevating the preempt
> > count in early boot (or at compile time) then dropping it when
> > scheduling becomes available.
> 
> Calling cond_resched() and co when !preemptable is an error so this
> wouldn't actually work.

Sorry if I was unclear. I'm suggesting setting the count so the existing
PREEMPT_ACTIVE test here fires:

int __sched _cond_resched(void)
{
        if (need_resched() && !(preempt_count() & PREEMPT_ACTIVE) &&
                                        system_state == SYSTEM_RUNNING) {
                __cond_resched();
                return 1;
        }
        return 0;
}

That should be kosher.

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