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Message-ID: <20090713222013.GB28136@shareable.org>
Date:	Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:20:13 +0100
From:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>
To:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ozas.de>
Cc:	Jörn Engel <joern@...fs.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Martin Steigerwald <Martin@...htvoll.de>,
	David Newall <davidn@...idnewall.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>,
	tridge@...ba.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, john.lanza@...ux.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, jcm@...masters.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 2009-07-12 13:21, Jörn Engel wrote:
> >[ Ignoring all legal and moral aspects...]
> >
> >On Fri, 10 July 2009 22:40:14 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> >> 
> >> Microsoft having patents on their *obsolete* filesystem should be *their*
> >
> >FAT is far from obsolete.  It is practically always the filesystem of
> >choice and often the only filesystem when trying to move data from one
> >system to another.  The next best alternatives are isofs and ext2.  And
> >I don't know a single digital camera, mp3 player or cellphone that
> >speaks either.
> 
> The next best would probably be UDF, which is already used on DVDs
> and thus is implemented in a number of devices - though probably
> only disc-reading ones.
> There's your market hole, dear vendors.

UDF has already been mentioned on this thread, next to "looks usable
in theory, now try it and find out it isn't".

-- Jamie
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