linux-kernel - Re: Generic events for wake up from S1-S4

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Date:	Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:27:16 -0700
From:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...il.com>
To:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>
Cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Jouni Malinen <j@...fi>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Chen <Stephen.Chen@...eros.com>
Subject: Re: Generic events for wake up from S1-S4

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Henrique de Moraes
Holschuh<hmh@....eng.br> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hm yeah, but I doubt someone will do that, generally we'd get one wake
>> up event. Can't we just report the first one and ignore the rest?
>
> Well, I'd say keeping it simple is best, here.  What if you ignore the more
> interesting wakeup events by chance (and it is really up to userspace to
> know what it considers interesting...)?  IMHO, just issue as many
> notifications as needed, let userspace filter it if it wants.
>
> But if you guys are talking about something really generic, shouldn't it
> also provide the important "why" along with the "who"?
>
> Even for the most common cases, the "why" is useful: userspace may well want
> to run special routines when it wakes up because of WoL and WoW (instead of
> a key press, lid open or mouse movement...).
>
> When you factor in wakeups caused by platform alarms, well, the "why"
> becomes even more interesting.

We'd need a generic interface for keeping track of all possible
wake-up-triggers. Should be easy with udev events.

>> > What about simply reporting "wake event happened on this device" and
>> > doing that for all the devices?
>>
>> That's fine too. Just think it would be nice to be more specific if possible.
>
> A generic way for a device (of any sort, not just network devices!) to
> report that they just issued a system wakeup message, as well as the reason
> it did that seems like a good way to do it to me.

This should be easy to do via udev events.

How about an generic platform registered, and udev events issues for
wake-up-triggers, and also for wake-up-events, and leave all the
sorting out to userspace? All we'd need in-kernel would be the trigger
registration and event trigger notifications.

  Luis
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