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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0907221352340.3918-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:21:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To: Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
cc: Daniel Mack <daniel@...aq.de>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [usb-serial] fix Ooops on uplug
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > free resources
> > > wake any pending openers
> >
> > Where exactly is the code that wakes the other openers?
>
> tty_port_close_end wakes port->open_wait
>
> if another opener was blocked during the hangup they then exit
> tty_blocked_until_ready and error
Hmmm. serial_open() doesn't call tty_port_block_til_ready() until just
before it returns. Shouldn't it do this before locking port->mutex and
incrementing port->port.count?
In fact, should usb-serial.c be touching port->port.count at all? Is
it reserved for use by the tty core?
> > There's an obvious race here between hangup and close. The assignment
> > of hung_up_tty_fops to filp->f_op is protected by the BKL and not much
> > else. Does the code in tty_release_dev() check to see whether this
> > assignment has been made before calling tty->ops->close()? It doesn't
> > like like it to me. With the wrong timing, you could end up telling
> > the device driver to stop the uart twice.
>
> The core hangup and close code are interlocked (now - didn't use to be).
But are they interlocked enough?
> > > The tty notion of "open" is really open->hangup or open->close. Once the
> > > hangup occurs you may have a file handle to a tty object but it doesn't
> > > talk to hardware.
> >
> > But it still talks to the device driver via tty_release_dev's call to
> > tty->ops->close. How is the driver supposed to know that this method
> > call shouldn't talk to the hardware?
>
> tty_hung_up_p() will be true
With no synchronization. So there's still a race.
Why doesn't tty_release_dev() test tty_hung_up_p() before calling
tty->ops->close() instead of making the driver do it?
> > In fact, what point is there in making the call at all? Once the
> > hangup has occurred, the driver shouldn't do _anything_ when the
> > corresponding release happens. As you say, the notion is open->hangup
> > or open->close, not open->(hangup followed by close).
>
> Beats me - not something I designed. However the driver would always need
> to be aware of it because the following can occur
>
> CPU1 CPU2
> close begins
> hangup
> update ops
> close handler runs
>
> The tty_port code handles that internally, but has to handle it anyway.
This is the race I have been talking about.
> There are similar issues with all the other calls if they are pending and
> I've not even begun to tackle them yet as they are basically
> inconveniences only. Also because I'm still hoping someone will implement
> revoke() on Linux and do all the hard work for me.
:-)
Alan Stern
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