linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional

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Message-ID: <20090805121551.7449f748@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:15:51 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
Cc:	Colin Guthrie <cguthrie@...driva.org>, Tejun Heo <teheo@...e.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional

> Not really :)  The soundcore is only for OSS device files.  As long as
> you use only ALSA-native APIs, you don't need it.  But, currently it's
> loaded and initialized just because of the module dependency.  This is
> no bug but also not an intended feature.

Sure for the ALSA device node it makes sense because ALSA is the mux for
it. Fortunately soundcore is tiny anyway.

> > This makes it worse.
> 
> Well, the only regression would be the case where you create static
> /dev/dsp (or else) devices and let auto-loading through sound-slot-*
> or sound-service-*-* aliases.  Of course, this still works if you
> load soundcore in some way.

Unless some ugly cuse hack got there first.

> What I suggested in the above is to cut off an unneeded dependency
> between soundcore and ALSA-native stuff instead of hacking soundcore.
> It won't change anything else, so everything else can coexist as
> before.

Agreed - but that is really a separate issue to having something break
the soundcore by being rude.

Alan
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