linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0908051216020.13195@sister.anvils>
Date:	Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:39:06 +0100 (BST)
From:	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	ieidus@...hat.com, aarcange@...hat.com, riel@...hat.com,
	chrisw@...hat.com, nickpiggin@...oo.com.au,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages_volatile

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:11:53 +0100 (BST)
> Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > pages_volatile is harder to define.  It includes those pages changing
> > too fast to get into the unstable tree, but also whatever other edge
> > conditions prevent a page getting into the trees: a high value may
> > deserve investigation.  Don't try to calculate it from the various
> > conditions: it's the total of rmap_items less those accounted for.
...
> >  static inline struct rmap_item *alloc_rmap_item(void)
> >  {
> > -	return kmem_cache_zalloc(rmap_item_cache, GFP_KERNEL);
> > +	struct rmap_item *rmap_item;
> > +
> > +	rmap_item = kmem_cache_zalloc(rmap_item_cache, GFP_KERNEL);
> > +	if (rmap_item)
> > +		ksm_rmap_items++;
> > +	return rmap_item;
> >  }
> 
> ksm_rmap_items was already available via /proc/slabinfo.  I guess that
> wasn't a particularly nice user interface ;)

procfs is not a nice interface for sysfs to be reading
when it's asked to show pages_volatile!

And not even always available, I think: SLOB wouldn't be able to report
the number of objects of any particular type, SLUB would need slub_nomerge
(or a debug flag) to keep the kmem_cache separate; and even SLAB would
have to assemble numbers from different cpus and queues, I guess.
Easier and more reliable for KSM to do its own thing here.

I do agree that slabinfo or slqbinfo or /proc/slabinfo is a good enough
interface for checking up on the number of rmap_items in use; it's what
I was using most of the time.  I did once fleetingly wonder whether to
show the count of rmap_items under /sys/kernel/mm/ksm, but rejected it
as not interesting enough to deserve more than what slabinfo tells.

But here the rmap_item count is being used to deduce something more
interesting (though more obscure), and I don't want SL?B divergences
to perturb the resulting number more than it is already.  I did start
out without the rmap_items count, incrementing and decrementing
pages_volatile all over the place; but soon abandoned that in
favour of the difference calculation.

But I think I'm taking you more seriously than you intended,
sorry for my humourlessness!

Hugh
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