linux-kernel - Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)

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Message-ID: <20090806110246.GI31370@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:02:47 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, davem@...emloft.net,
	mouw@...linux.org
Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message
	to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)

On Thu 2009-08-06 11:44:21, Russell King wrote:

> It appears the answer to that is no.  People are free to subscribe to
> the one on vger, where they won't have to "put up" with me.  However,
> it seems that people much prefer to subscribe to my lists, because that
> seems to be where the expertise is.
> 
> Moreover,
> 
> (a) when ever you have a problem, you go shouting and making public
> accusations without trying first to resolve the problem in private.

When I tried asking in private, I was told to stop complaining or loose
my mailing list subscription. I'd prefer not to make that mistake again.

> (c) you really don't understand that "held for moderation" is *not*
> rejection, but merely a case of mailman spotting something it doesn't
> like and letting a *human* deal with it rather than out-right rejecting
> it.

For lakml, held for moderation _does_ mean it will return with
"posting rejected: no reason given" in few days. I have never seen any
other result, and have got perfectly reasonable messages rejected with
"no reason". So no, I do not believe there's cooperative human being
moderating lakml.

> I wonder, do you even know what happened to the message you're whinging
> about?  Would you prefer that your message was silently dropped into
> /dev/null instead of having a chance of the issue being resolved?  It
> strikes me that _that_ would be a better solution than all your
> whinging.

So... your solution to broken mailing list is to silence everyone who
complains?

									Pavel
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