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Message-ID: <20090811125653.12c35ee8@skybase>
Date:	Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:56:53 +0200
From:	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>
To:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@...ibm.com>,
	manfred@...orfullife.com, Ihno Krumreich <ihno@...e.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [BUG] race of RCU vs NOHU

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:08:07 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:25:35PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:29:57 -0700
> > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:15:29PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > I analysed a dump of a hanging 2.6.30 system and found what I think is
> > > > a bug of RCU vs NOHZ. There are a number of patches ontop of that
> > > > kernel but they should be independent of the bug.
> > > > 
> > > > The systems has 4 cpus and uses classic RCU. cpus #0, #2 and #3 woke up
> > > > recently, cpu #1 has been sleeping for 5 minutes, but there is a pending
> > > > rcu batch. The timer wheel for cpu #1 is empty, it will continue to
> > > > sleep for NEXT_TIMER_MAX_DELTA ticks.
> > > 
> > > Congratulations, Martin!  You have exercised what to date has been a
> > > theoretical bug identified last year by Manfred Spraul.  The fix is to
> > > switch from CONFIG_RCU_CLASSIC to CONFIG_RCU_TREE, which was added in
> > > 2.6.29.
> > > 
> > > Of course, if you need to work with an old kernel version, you might
> > > still need a patch, perhaps for the various -stable versions.  If so,
> > > please let me know -- otherwise, I will focus forward on CONFIG_RCU_TREE
> > > rather than backwards on CONFIG_RCU_CLASSIC.
> > 
> > SLES11 is 2.6.27 and uses classic RCU. The not-so theoretical bug is
> > present there and I think it needs to be fixed :-/
> 
> I was afraid of that.  ;-)
> 
> Given that there are some other theoretical bugs in Classic RCU involving
> interrupts and CONFIG_NO_HZ, would backporting CONFIG_TREE_RCU make more
> sense than playing whack-a-mole on Classic RCU bugs?

Fine with me but I don't know if SuSE/Novell is willing to accept such a
big change for an existing distribution. I've put Ihno and Greg on Cc.

-- 
blue skies,
   Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.

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