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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:48:20 +0800
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
"Dike, Jeffrey G" <jeffrey.g.dike@...el.com>,
"Yu, Wilfred" <wilfred.yu@...el.com>,
"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@...el.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 11:17:22AM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > > Likely we need a cut-off point, if we detect it takes more than X
> > > seconds to scan the whole active list, we start ignoring young bits,
> >
> > We could just make this depend on the calculated inactive_ratio,
> > which depends on the size of the list.
> >
> > For small systems, it may make sense to make every accessed bit
> > count, because the working set will often approach the size of
> > memory.
> >
> > On very large systems, the working set may also approach the
> > size of memory, but the inactive list only contains a small
> > percentage of the pages, so there is enough space for everything.
> >
> > Say, if the inactive_ratio is 3 or less, make the accessed bit
> > on the active lists count.
>
> Sound reasonable.
Yes, such kind of global measurements would be much better.
> How do we confirm the idea correctness?
In general the active list tends to grow large on under-scanned LRU.
I guess Rik is pretty familiar with typical inactive_ratio values of
the large memory systems and may even have some real numbers :)
> Wu, your X focus switching benchmark is sufficient test?
It is a major test case for memory tight desktop. Jeff presents
another interesting one for KVM, hehe.
Anyway I collected the active/inactive list sizes, and the numbers
show that the inactive_ratio is roughly 1 when the LRU is scanned
actively and may go very high when it is under-scanned.
Thanks,
Fengguang
4GB desktop, kernel 2.6.30
--------------------------
1) fresh startup:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
0 80255 68932 24066
2) read 10GB sparse file:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
48096 52312 830142 10971
3) kvm -m 512M:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
82606 155588 684375 15380
4) exit kvm:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
66364 35275 679033 17009
512MB desktop, kernel 2.6.31
----------------------------
1) fresh startup, console:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
0 1870 7082 2075
2) fresh startx:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
0 30021 31551 6893
3) start many x apps, no swap:
(script attached)
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
0 56475 29608 9707
4074 54886 27431 9743
5452 54025 26685 9950
7417 53428 25394 9963
8522 52388 24717 10553
10684 51955 22055 11384
11644 51597 21329 11342
12341 51221 20822 11513
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13874 50494 19916 11517
15284 48778 19739 12127
15668 49037 19196 12380
16821 48571 17661 13133
18329 49175 14470 14490
18961 49652 13081 14432
18961 49608 13236 14414
20563 51379 11171 13823
21044 50281 10311 13948
21426 49906 10268 13984
21771 50479 9734 14019
23246 49062 9672 13431
23984 49490 10083 12763
24479 49373 10332 12446
25782 49053 9655 12101
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
26970 48078 9891 11415
28041 47873 9617 11079
29485 51183 8445 8293
30484 50140 8441 7997
31841 50578 6904 7413
32579 49873 6937 7804
34117 49336 6447 7440
35380 48300 5816 7471
38055 46486 4778 7546
39528 45227 5043 7417
40777 44681 4148 7325
41902 44468 3967 6534
43107 43378 4630 5846
43418 43538 5019 5698
43563 43514 4839 5514
43660 43587 5228 5431
43645 43315 4919 5886
43618 43555 4531 5704
43751 43646 4584 5600
43839 43703 4507 5569
44015 44057 4757 5378
44115 44089 4707 4724
44331 44184 4710 4701
44577 44554 4221 4265
[...]
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
47945 47876 1594 1547
47944 47888 1944 1494
47944 47888 1351 1392
47974 47844 1976 1498
47974 47858 1411 1549
47974 47857 1482 1423
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47969 47349 1884 1592
47966 47353 1993 1700
47966 47343 1913 1882
47965 47306 1683 1746
47960 47373 1598 1583
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47960 47004 2444 1625
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47956 47047 1866 1742
47955 47080 2039 1987
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47954 47092 1963 1867
47954 47130 1851 1846
47954 47154 2134 1813
47954 47181 1952 1813
47953 47138 1678 1810
47951 47125 1848 1951
4) start many x apps, with swap:
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
0 6571 13646 3251
0 6823 14637 3900
0 7426 17187 3935
0 8188 19989 3959
0 9994 21582 4148
0 12556 21889 5157
0 13846 23764 5249
0 20383 25393 5546
0 21830 26019 5696
0 22856 26608 5972
0 28651 28128 6146
0 28058 28482 6309
0 27726 28595 6312
0 27634 28775 6471
0 27636 28774 6464
0 31299 28848 6834
0 35102 29539 6886
0 39561 29980 6915
0 41573 30008 6917
0 47562 30041 6917
0 54603 30041 6917
3040 55528 29273 6945
16937 44916 23406 7675
16937 44932 23416 7670
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
16937 44961 23416 7670
16937 40583 23416 7670
16937 40596 23417 7670
16937 40607 23417 7670
16937 40139 23404 7668
12181 11794 22932 8144
12181 11794 22932 8144
12181 11794 22946 8144
12181 11794 22946 8144
12147 13063 23148 8280
12146 15994 22842 8565
12146 17491 22654 8718
12146 17488 22654 8718
12146 17653 22634 8733
12146 18656 21030 10513
12146 19717 20778 10770
12146 20341 20859 10846
12146 21134 21096 11133
12146 22692 21129 11453
12144 24698 22225 11476
12144 27726 22609 11536
12144 27774 22648 11555
12144 28447 22844 11564
12144 30286 23238 11567
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
12121 31489 23350 11761
12099 33117 23336 11779
12099 33632 23555 11787
12099 35393 23566 11806
12099 35828 23490 11882
12099 35879 23486 11887
12099 35889 23486 11888
12099 36078 24124 11890
12099 36449 25079 11895
12099 37782 25334 11898
12099 39494 25564 11904
12099 40620 25657 11905
14200 41298 25399 12069
21555 35228 22969 12495
22829 33097 22703 12617
25519 31496 22115 12552
28590 28947 21617 13051
28940 29076 19806 13270
29430 29344 19153 13825
30183 30399 17643 13418
32242 32203 13535 13969
33319 33294 12236 13659
33154 33085 11431 13482
33572 33569 11315 13102
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
36246 35355 8033 9355
35659 35558 8491 8394
35330 35142 8233 8278
35788 35561 8460 8454
36129 36359 8413 8627
36727 36365 8311 8509
36672 36870 8437 8479
36772 36656 8090 8354
36754 36614 8237 8378
37591 36065 8352 8470
36530 36383 7607 7611
36113 35992 7271 7296
36149 35667 7092 7052
36014 35350 7408 7206
36409 35890 8027 7396
36300 35418 7892 7704
36369 36589 7723 7838
36243 36168 7576 7793
35804 35622 7422 7726
35498 35435 7443 7557
35078 35159 7542 7243
35478 35415 8199 7552
35143 35025 7828 7763
35312 34754 7745 7545
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
35093 34933 7166 7748
36253 36236 7171 7408
36225 36929 8236 7532
36197 36169 7562 7632
35711 35647 7312 7471
35210 35144 7202 7227
35052 35021 7073 7084
35263 35047 7128 6963
35359 35177 7572 7048
35665 35523 7927 7025
34988 34788 7279 7340
34678 34438 7352 7141
34352 34270 7033 6980
34307 34175 6881 6809
34038 34469 7603 6700
34169 33854 7105 6868
34048 34124 7051 6869
33630 33445 6821 6875
33047 32992 6617 6554
33232 33012 7114 6659
33442 33217 7408 6700
32942 32707 6830 7257
32672 32593 6801 7207
32406 32142 6656 6960
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
32127 32036 6641 6798
31929 31769 6567 6664
31786 31968 7532 6670
32208 31228 7448 6859
30904 30835 6503 6774
30543 30559 6345 6709
30394 30278 6235 6288
30541 30239 6470 6243
30463 30656 6959 6587
31020 29794 7393 6897
30169 30128 6295 6905
29755 29644 6236 6598
29765 29617 6342 6475
29874 29748 6215 6335
29654 29491 6355 6358
29972 29853 7079 6607
29437 29267 6670 7205
29160 28956 6602 6982
29411 29017 6578 6937
29069 28952 6539 6717
29570 29342 6982 6850
28882 28927 6912 6809
29326 28731 6928 6814
28883 28817 6762 6819
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
29072 28696 6756 6803
29296 29120 6993 6972
28426 28167 6238 7182
28071 27862 6197 6953
27944 27767 6872 6780
28141 27819 6839 6654
27547 27309 6285 6209
27578 27842 7730 6465
27741 27470 7180 6665
27481 27217 7566 6919
27568 27405 7696 7027
27274 27004 7416 7120
27110 26920 7111 7303
27282 27056 7476 7046
27549 27044 7779 7074
27325 26968 7290 6972
27665 27528 8465 7058
27093 26974 7662 7243
27155 27068 7299 7344
26638 26553 6925 7325
26718 26383 6571 7425
26264 26150 6470 6960
26463 26176 6590 6803
27155 26396 7387 6709
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
26532 26408 6722 6702
26491 26421 6789 6731
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27129 26584 7713 6991
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25514 25217 7469 6543
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25070 24965 6716 6886
25143 24801 6597 6785
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25223 25212 6829 6757
25504 24778 7589 6840
25531 24786 8068 6896
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
25343 25169 7227 7042
25195 25129 6804 7149
25355 25071 6958 6941
25294 25202 6676 6850
25688 25050 6743 6694
25736 25268 6910 6580
25750 25530 7299 6557
25401 25273 6622 6810
25672 25525 6798 6770
25192 25067 6226 6486
26011 25360 6540 6466
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27482 26910 5945 5714
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
27609 27143 5929 5715
27885 27443 7168 5947
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27679 27265 7898 6445
27655 26342 7651 6574
27033 26853 7385 6831
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26464 26310 6374 6465
26192 26084 6261 6417
26182 25801 6511 6367
26010 25880 6251 6266
26130 26032 5974 6280
26417 26175 5830 6610
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26481 26363 5911 6356
26765 26622 6401 6266
27022 26534 6593 6210
27587 26515 6560 6193
27156 27029 6123 6109
27284 26926 6159 5776
27153 26996 5698 5642
26712 26603 6151 5541
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
26697 27024 7919 5565
26651 26471 7134 5965
27021 26479 7617 5996
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26081 25894 6267 6527
25605 25487 5814 6407
25564 25447 5613 6422
25460 25406 5630 6374
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25512 25043 6024 5982
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26022 25737 5592 5510
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25311 25252 6157 6146
25432 25379 6658 6197
25552 25390 6176 6357
25388 25237 5742 6303
25841 25173 5932 6325
nr_inactive_anon nr_active_anon nr_inactive_file nr_active_file
25054 24965 5532 6072
24754 25191 7503 5941
25529 25133 7319 6000
25350 24510 6993 6078
24672 24541 6027 6068
24610 24492 5811 5804
24819 24674 5841 5820
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