linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARM sections

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Message-ID: <20090813103511.2928a085@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:35:11 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@...ontk.org>,
	Erik Mouw <mouw@...linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARM
 sections

O> Let me make this clear, yet again.  The lists are *not* subscriber only
> lists.  We do NOT reject non-subscriber posts for no reason what so ever
> (although it does seem to have happened, both Erik and myself both
> contend that we have never rejected a mailing intentionally without
> giving a reason - whether the original poster receives that reason is
> a function of how buggy mailman is.)

Does it matter one iota whether mailman is rejecting the posts or you
are. It's a long standing nuisance. And if the software is that buggy why
not move it to vger which works and has its own active maintainers which
will free up your time ?

> There is also a feeling from some people in this community (they've told
> me themselves in private) that certain mainline folk have been actively
> trying to undermine the ARM community - given the recent "discussions"
> (more like flames) over things like the device tree, the HTC stuff, etc.

Well if you will hide in your own cupboard under the stairs nobody is
going to understand the ARM folks needs. You don't need malice to account
for that.

> (and the queue was processed in a timely manner) people would not
> complain one bit.  So it is probably far better if I bend mailman

No they'd cc the ARM list and wonder why they were being ignored. That
would not really be progress. Well actually if they simply cc'd that list
and posted to linux-arm, then sent patches directly since nobody
complained maybe it would  ;)
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