lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:01:00 +0100
From:	Daniel Silverstone <dsilvers@...tec.co.uk>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Daniel Mack <daniel@...aq.de>, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@...ontk.org>,
	Erik Mouw <mouw@...linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARM
	sections

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:18:08AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> These lists are getting close to me just pulling the plug on them.  The
> amount of crap flying around about them is getting too great for me to
> continue to provide such a service to this community.  When I pull them,
> I'll pull *all* the linux-arm related lists.
> Someone else can provide and run the mailing lists.
> I estimate that this will happen this evening.  Really.  Because I don't
> see this thread settling down.

While I appreciate that this is possibly too little too late, for what it's
worth I personally appreciate all the effort you put into the ARM-Linux lists,
and I think it would be a great shame to let them turn into the free-for-all
bunfight which we know will happen if you relinquish the control you hold.

Linux-ARM-Kernel is the only Linux-related mailing list I have left which isn't
running on a host I have to whitelist through all of my spam-checking because
the lists are so spam-friendly that if I try and spam-check them, I get kicked
off for rejecting too much of the mail.

I dread to think what will happen to the quality of the code if the vendors are
left to push whatever they like into the core.  Heck, even the long-term
subsystem or arch/mach maintainers sometimes need a push in the right
direction, and I doubt that such information and impetus would make it to them
if the lists were not well managed.

For my $0.02, I hope you find it in you to be able to continue managing the
lists as they are, and I am sorry for not piping up a bit earlier.

Regards,

Daniel.

-- 
Daniel Silverstone                              http://www.simtec.co.uk/

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ