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Message-ID: <BD79186B4FD85F4B8E60E381CAEE190901BE9EBD@mi8nycmail19.Mi8.com>
Date:	Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:39:12 -0400
From:	"H Hartley Sweeten" <hartleys@...ionengravers.com>
To:	"Daniel Silverstone" <dsilvers@...tec.co.uk>,
	"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@...aq.de>, "Joe Perches" <joe@...ches.com>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel@....cz>, "Ben Dooks" <ben-linux@...ff.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"David John" <davidjon@...ontk.org>,
	"Erik Mouw" <mouw@...linux.org>,
	"kernel list" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"David Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"Krzysztof Halasa" <khc@...waw.pl>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARMsections

On Friday, August 14, 2009 3:01 AM, Daniel Silverstone wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:18:08AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> These lists are getting close to me just pulling the plug on them.  The
>> amount of crap flying around about them is getting too great for me to
>> continue to provide such a service to this community.  When I pull them,
>> I'll pull *all* the linux-arm related lists.
>> Someone else can provide and run the mailing lists.
>> I estimate that this will happen this evening.  Really.  Because I don't
>> see this thread settling down.
>
> While I appreciate that this is possibly too little too late, for what it's
> worth I personally appreciate all the effort you put into the ARM-Linux lists,
> and I think it would be a great shame to let them turn into the free-for-all
> bunfight which we know will happen if you relinquish the control you hold.
> 
> Linux-ARM-Kernel is the only Linux-related mailing list I have left which isn't
> running on a host I have to whitelist through all of my spam-checking because
> the lists are so spam-friendly that if I try and spam-check them, I get kicked
> off for rejecting too much of the mail.
> 
> I dread to think what will happen to the quality of the code if the vendors are
> left to push whatever they like into the core.  Heck, even the long-term
> subsystem or arch/mach maintainers sometimes need a push in the right
> direction, and I doubt that such information and impetus would make it to them
> if the lists were not well managed.
> 
> For my $0.02, I hope you find it in you to be able to continue managing the
> lists as they are, and I am sorry for not piping up a bit earlier.

For what it's worth I agree with Daniel's comments.

There may be people that disagree with Russell's comments/attitude sometimes
but he provides a great resource for the ARM community.  I personally have no
problems with the linux-arm lists.  It's one of the few I am on that I "know"
all mail will be relevant and useful.

Regards,
Hartley
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