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Date:	Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:00:32 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Cc:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@...toit.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	"Yu, Wilfred" <wilfred.yu@...el.com>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 05:52:47PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:31:19 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:17:34PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:34:38 +0800
> > > Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Minchan,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:33:54PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Wu Fengguang<fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:15:02PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:53:00AM +0800, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > > > >> > Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 05:09:55AM +0800, Jeff Dike wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> Side question -
> > > > > >> > >>  Is there a good reason for this to be in shrink_active_list()
> > > > > >> > >> as opposed to __isolate_lru_page?
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>          if (unlikely(!page_evictable(page, NULL))) {
> > > > > >> > >>                  putback_lru_page(page);
> > > > > >> > >>                  continue;
> > > > > >> > >>          }
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Maybe we want to minimize the amount of code under the lru lock or
> > > > > >> > >> avoid duplicate logic in the isolate_page functions.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > I guess the quick test means to avoid the expensive page_referenced()
> > > > > >> > > call that follows it. But that should be mostly one shot cost - the
> > > > > >> > > unevictable pages are unlikely to cycle in active/inactive list again
> > > > > >> > > and again.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Please read what putback_lru_page does.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > It moves the page onto the unevictable list, so that
> > > > > >> > it will not end up in this scan again.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Yes it does. I said 'mostly' because there is a small hole that an
> > > > > >> unevictable page may be scanned but still not moved to unevictable
> > > > > >> list: when a page is mapped in two places, the first pte has the
> > > > > >> referenced bit set, the _second_ VMA has VM_LOCKED bit set, then
> > > > > >> page_referenced() will return 1 and shrink_page_list() will move it
> > > > > >> into active list instead of unevictable list. Shall we fix this rare
> > > > > >> case?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it's not a big deal.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe, otherwise I should bring up this issue long time before :)
> > > > 
> > > > > As you mentioned, it's rare case so there would be few pages in active
> > > > > list instead of unevictable list.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > > When next time to scan comes, we can try to move the pages into
> > > > > unevictable list, again.
> > > > 
> > > > Will PG_mlocked be set by then? Otherwise the situation is not likely 
> > > > to change and the VM_LOCKED pages may circulate in active/inactive
> > > > list for countless times.
> > > 
> > > PG_mlocked is not important in that case. 
> > > Important thing is VM_LOCKED vma. 
> > > I think below annotaion can help you to understand my point. :)
> > 
> > Hmm, it looks like pages under VM_LOCKED vma is guaranteed to have
> > PG_mlocked set, and so will be caught by page_evictable(). Is it?
> 
> No. I am sorry for making my point not clear. 
> I meant following as. 
> When the next time to scan,
> 
> shrink_page_list 
  -> 
                referenced = page_referenced(page, 1,
                                                sc->mem_cgroup, &vm_flags);
                /* In active use or really unfreeable?  Activate it. */
                if (sc->order <= PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER &&
                                        referenced && page_mapping_inuse(page))
                        goto activate_locked;
  
> -> try_to_unmap
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~ this line won't be reached if page is found to be
     referenced in the above lines?

Thanks,
Fengguang

> 	-> try_to_unmap_xxx
> 		-> if (vma->vm_flags & VM_LOCKED)
> 		-> try_to_mlock_page
> 			-> TestSetPageMlocked
> 			-> putback_lru_page
> 
> So at last, the page will be located in unevictable list. 
> 
> > Then I was worrying about a null problem. Sorry for the confusion!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Fengguang
> > 
> > > ----
> > > 
> > > /*
> > >  * called from munlock()/munmap() path with page supposedly on the LRU.
> > >  *
> > >  * Note:  unlike mlock_vma_page(), we can't just clear the PageMlocked
> > >  * [in try_to_munlock()] and then attempt to isolate the page.  We must
> > >  * isolate the page to keep others from messing with its unevictable
> > >  * and mlocked state while trying to munlock.  However, we pre-clear the
> > >  * mlocked state anyway as we might lose the isolation race and we might
> > >  * not get another chance to clear PageMlocked.  If we successfully
> > >  * isolate the page and try_to_munlock() detects other VM_LOCKED vmas
> > >  * mapping the page, it will restore the PageMlocked state, unless the page
> > >  * is mapped in a non-linear vma.  So, we go ahead and SetPageMlocked(),
> > >  * perhaps redundantly.
> > >  * If we lose the isolation race, and the page is mapped by other VM_LOCKED
> > >  * vmas, we'll detect this in vmscan--via try_to_munlock() or try_to_unmap()
> > >  * either of which will restore the PageMlocked state by calling
> > >  * mlock_vma_page() above, if it can grab the vma's mmap sem.
> > >  */
> > > static void munlock_vma_page(struct page *page)
> > > {
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Minchan Kim
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> Minchan Kim
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