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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:34:18 +0800
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] memcg: move definitions to .h and inline some functions
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:27:05PM +0800, Balbir Singh wrote:
> * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> [2009-08-19 23:18:01]:
>
> > Wu Fengguang ?$B$5$s$O=q$-$^$7$?!'
> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:57:52PM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > > This one of the reasons why we unconditionally deactivate
> > >> > > the active anon pages, and do background scanning of the
> > >> > > active anon list when reclaiming page cache pages.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We want to always move some pages to the inactive anon
> > >> > > list, so it does not get too small.
> > >> >
> > >> > Right, the current code tries to pull inactive list out of
> > >> > smallish-size state as long as there are vmscan activities.
> > >> >
> > >> > However there is a possible (and tricky) hole: mem cgroups
> > >> > don't do batched vmscan. shrink_zone() may call shrink_list()
> > >> > with nr_to_scan=1, in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls
> > >> > isolate_pages() with the much larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.
> > >> >
> > >> > It effectively scales up the inactive list scan rate by 10 times when
> > >> > it is still small, and may thus prevent it from growing up for ever.
> > >> >
> > >> > In that case, LRU becomes FIFO.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jeff, can you confirm if the mem cgroup's inactive list is small?
> > >> > If so, this patch should help.
> > >>
> > >> This patch does right thing.
> > >> However, I would explain why I and memcg folks didn't do that in past
> > >> days.
> > >>
> > >> Strangely, some memcg struct declaration is hide in *.c. Thus we can't
> > >> make inline function and we hesitated to introduce many function calling
> > >> overhead.
> > >>
> > >> So, Can we move some memcg structure declaration to *.h and make
> > >> mem_cgroup_get_saved_scan() inlined function?
> > >
> > > OK here it is. I have to move big chunks to make it compile, and it
> > > does reduced a dozen lines of code :)
> > >
> > > Is this big copy&paste acceptable? (memcg developers CCed).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Fengguang
> >
> > I don't like this. plz add hooks to necessary places, at this stage.
> > This will be too big for inlined function, anyway.
> > plz move this after you find overhead is too big.
It shall not be a performance regression, since the text size is slightly
smaller with the patch:
text data bss dec hex filename
before 8732148 2771858 11048432 22552438 1581f76 vmlinux
after 8731972 2771858 11048432 22552262 1581ec6 vmlinux
> Me too.. I want to abstract the implementation within memcontrol.c to
> be honest (I am concerned that someone might include memcontrol.h and
> access its structure members, which scares me). Hiding it within
> memcontrol.c provides the right level of abstraction.
Yeah quite reasonable.
> Could you please explain your motivation for this change? I got cc'ed
> on to a few emails, is this for the patch that export nr_save_scanned
> approach?
Yes, KOSAKI proposed to inline the mem_cgroup_get_saved_scan() function
introduced in that patch, which requires moving the structs into .h
I'll submit the original (un-inlined) patch.
Thanks,
Fengguang
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