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Date:	Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:11:21 +0900
From:	Hiroaki Wakabayashi <primulaelatior@...il.com>
To:	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>
Cc:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: make munlock fast when mlock is canceled by sigkill

Thank you for ideas and advices!

2009/8/25 Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Hiroaki Wakabayashi wrote:
>> Thank you for reviews.
>>
>> >>> > @@ -254,6 +254,7 @@ static inline void
>> >>> > mminit_validate_memmodel_limits(unsigned long *start_pfn,
>> >>> >  #define GUP_FLAGS_FORCE                  0x2
>> >>> >  #define GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_VMA_PERMISSIONS 0x4
>> >>> >  #define GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_SIGKILL         0x8
>> >>> > +#define GUP_FLAGS_ALLOW_NULL             0x10
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> I am worried about adding new flag whenever we need it.
>
> Indeed!  See my comments below.
>
>> >>> But I think this case makes sense to me.
>> >>> In addition, I guess ZERO page can also use this flag.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kame. What do you think about it?
>> >>>
>> >> I do welcome this !
>> >> Then, I don't have to take care of mlock/munlock in ZERO_PAGE patch.
>
> I _think_ there's nothing to do for it (the page->mapping checks suit
> the ZERO_PAGE); but I've not started testing my version, so may soon
> be proved wrong.
>
>> >>
>> >> And without this patch, munlock() does copy-on-write just for unpinning memory.
>> >> So, this patch shows some right direction, I think.
>> >>
>> >> One concern is flag name, ALLOW_NULL sounds not very good.
>> >>
>> >>  GUP_FLAGS_NOFAULT ?
>> >>
>> >> I wonder we can remove a hack of FOLL_ANON for core-dump by this flag, too.
>
> No, the considerations there a different (it can only point to a ZERO_PAGE
> where faulting would anyway present a page of zeroes); it should be dealt
> with by a coredump-specific flag, rather than sowing confusion elsewhere.
> As above, I've done that but not yet tested it.
>
>> >
>> > Yeah, GUP_FLAGS_NOFAULT is better.
>>
>> Me too.
>> I will change this flag name.
>>...
>> When I try to change __get_user_pages(), I got problem.
>> If remove NULLs from pages,
>> __mlock_vma_pages_range() cannot know how long __get_user_pages() readed.
>> So, I have to get the virtual address of the page from vma and page.
>> Because __mlock_vma_pages_range() have to call
>> __get_user_pages() many times with different `start' argument.
>>
>> I try to use page_address_in_vma(), but it failed.
>> (page_address_in_vma() returned -EFAULT)
>> I cannot find way to solve this problem.
>> Are there good ideas?
>> Please give me some ideas.
>
> I agree that this munlock issue needs to be addressed: it's not just a
> matter of speedup, I hit it when testing what happens when mlock takes
> you to OOM - which is currently a hanging disaster because munlock'ing
> in the exiting OOM-killed process gets stuck trying to fault in all
> those pages that couldn't be locked in the first place.

I'm sorry, it too difficult for me to understand.
I will learn and consider.

> I had intended to fix it by being more careful about splitting/merging
> vmas, noting how far the mlock had got, and munlocking just up to there.
> However, now that I've got in there, that looks wrong to me, given the
> traditional behaviour that mlock does its best, but pretends success
> to allow for later instantiation of the pages if necessary.
>
> You ask for ideas.  My main idea is that so far we have added
> GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_VMA_PERMISSIONS (Kosaki-san, what was that about?
>                                  we already had the force flag),
> GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_SIGKILL, and now you propose
> GUP_FLAGS_NOFAULT, all for the sole use of munlock.
>
> How about GUP_FLAGS_MUNLOCK, or more to the point, GUP_FLAGS_DONT_BE_GUP?
> By which I mean, don't all these added flags suggest that almost
> everything __get_user_pages() does is unsuited to the munlock case?
>
> My advice (but I sure hate giving advice before I've tried it myself)
> is to put __mlock_vma_pages_range() back to handling just the mlock
> case, and do your own follow_page() loop in munlock_vma_pages_range().
>
> Hugh

Me, too. I agree __get_user_pages() unsuited to the munlock.
I let try to make follow_page() loop, and remove
 GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_VMA_PERMISSIONS and GUP_FLAGS_IGNORE_SIGKILL.

Thanks!
--
Hiroaki Wakabayashi
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