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Message-Id: <1251495785.5984.13.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
Date:	Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:43:05 -0400
From:	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@....uio.no>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:29 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 05:16:14PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:08 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > #define O_SYNC	(O_FULLSYNC|O_DSYNC)
> > > 
> > >  - during the normal merge window I will add a real implementation for
> > >    for O_FULLSYNC and O_RSYNC
> > > 
> > > P.S. better naming suggestions for O_FULLSYNC welcome
> > 
> > Basically you are just ensuring that the metadata changes are being
> > synced together with the data changes, so how about O_ISYNC (inode
> > sync)?
> 
> Yeah.  Thinking about this a bit more we should define this flag
> much more clearly.  In the obvious implementation it would not actually
> do anything if it's set on it's own.  We would only check it if O_DSYNC
> is already set to decided if we want to set the datasync argument to
> ->fsync to 0 or 1 for the generic filesystems (and similar things for
> filesystems not using the generic helper).
> 
> If we deem that this is too unsafe we could make sure O_DSYNC always
> gets set on this fag in ->open, but if we make sure O_SYNC is defined
> like the one above in the kernel headers and glibc we should be fine.
> 
> Although in that case a name that doesn't suggest that it actually does
> something useful would be better.

If you are going to automatically set O_DSYNC in open(), then
fcntl(F_SETFL) might get a bit nasty.

Imagine using it after the open in order to clear the O_ISYNC flag;
you'll still be left with the O_DSYNC (which you never set in the first
place). That would be confusing...

Cheers
  Trond

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