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Message-ID: <4AAA74D2.9060203@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:03:30 -0400
From:	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
CC:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ibm.com>,
	"K.Prasad" <prasad@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@...fujitsu.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>,
	systemtap <systemtap@...rces.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tracing/kprobes 0/7] tracing/kprobes: kprobe-based	event
 tracer update and perf support

Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 07:52:58PM -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> Hi Frederic,
>>
>> This series fixes bugs and upgrades kprobe-based event tracer
>> as a dynamic event tracer on ftrace/perf tools. This also enhances
>> tracer output format to show each argument name and event name on
>> each entry.
>>
>> With this series, users can add trace events dynamically on ftrace
>> and use those events with perf tools as below.
>>
>> (Step.1) Define new events under new group
>>
>> $ echo p:mygroup/myprobe do_sys_open dfd=a0 filename=a1 flags=a2 mode=a3 \
>>   >  /debug/tracing/kprobes_events
>> $ echo r:mygroup/myretprobe do_sys_open rv>>  /debug/tracing/kprobes_events
>> $ cat /debug/tracing/kprobes_events
>> p:myprobe do_sys_open+0 dfd=a0 filename=a1 flags=a2 mode=a3
>> r:myretprobe do_sys_open+0 rv=rv
>>
>> (You can see that each argument has its name.)
>>
>>
>> (Step.2) Perf shows new events
>>
>> $ perf list
>> ...
>>     mygroup:myretprobe                         [Tracepoint event]
>>     mygroup:myprobe                            [Tracepoint event]
>> ...
>>
>>
>> (Step.3) Record events with perf
>>
>> $ perf record -f -e mygroup:myprobe:record -F 1 -a ls
>> ...
>> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.081 MB perf.data (~3544 samples) ]
>>
>>
>> (Step.4) Perf trace shows the result
>>
>> $ perf trace
>> version = 0.5
>>              perf-1405  [000]     0.000000: myprobe: (c04b0a5c) dfd=ffffff9c filename=810d3f7 flags=98800 mode=1
>>              perf-1405  [000]     0.000000: myprobe: (c04b0a5c) dfd=ffffff9c filename=bff7650c flags=8000 mode=1b6
>>              perf-1405  [000]     0.000000: myprobe: (c04b0a5c) dfd=ffffff9c filename=bff7650c flags=98800 mode=bff7450c
>>              perf-1405  [000]     0.000000: myprobe: (c04b0a5c) dfd=ffffff9c filename=bff7650c flags=8000 mode=1b6
>
>
> Nice!
>
> May be another step in the todo-list that would be nice: define the format
> for a type. Like it's done from ftrace events.

Thanks!

BTW, I'm not sure what the type means. Each event already has its own
event ID and event_call. Could you tell me which part of ftrace I should
refer to ?


>>
>>
>> (Step.5) You can also use return probes.
>>
>> $ perf record -f -e mygroup:myretprobe:record -F 1 -a ls
>> ...
>> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.081 MB perf.data (~3544 samples) ]
>> $ perf trace
>> version = 0.5
>>              perf-1408  [000]     0.000000: myretprobe: (c04b0a5c<- c04b0b7d) rv=b
>>              perf-1408  [000]     0.000000: myretprobe: (c04b0a5c<- c04b0b7d) rv=c
>>              perf-1408  [000]     0.000000: myretprobe: (c04b0a5c<- c04b0b7d) rv=d
>>              perf-1408  [000]     0.000000: myretprobe: (c04b0a5c<- c04b0b7d) rv=c
>>
>>
>> TODO:
>> - Implement perf kprobe command to help defining new probes.
>
>
>
> Yeah!
>
> I wonder what could be the best workflow to use it.
>
> Imagine the following steps:
>
> - perf kprobe = define kprobes using C expression
> - perf record -e our_kprobes
> - perf trace
>
> That's way too much.
> Especially it's sad to be forced to define a kprobe, then
> get back its name, use it with record, and eventually
> unsheathe perf trace.
>
> I guess we should choose between the low level, very granular
> but uninviting method "kprobe + record + trace" and also an all
> in one quick approach.
>
> And that could be chosen from perf kprobe:
>
> Low level:
>
> perf kprobe --define-only [-p|-r] [probe_name] -a1 [arg1] -a2 [arg2] \
> 	    --format="%s %...."
>
> perf record -e kprobes:probe_name
> perf trace
>
> Quick:
>
> perf kprobe -p probe_name -a1 ..... cmdline| -a
>
> And after the profiled task is finished, it could launch perf trace
> by itself (or wait for a Ctrl + C if -a/wide profiling)

Another thought: expand record subcommand.

perf record -E "p|r:probe_name,place,arg1,arg2..."
perf trace

And kprobe accept multiple definitions

perf kprobe -E "p|r:probe_name,place,arg1,arg2..." -E ...



Thank you,


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu

Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
Software Solutions Division

e-mail: mhiramat@...hat.com

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