linux-kernel - Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests

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Message-ID: <20090915151952.GH4846@balbir.in.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:49:52 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@...inux.co.jp>
Cc:	dhaval@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, vgoyal@...hat.com, riel@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dm-devel@...hat.com,
	jens.axboe@...cle.com, agk@...hat.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	nauman@...gle.com, guijianfeng@...fujitsu.com, jmoyer@...hat.com
Subject: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests

* Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@...inux.co.jp> [2009-09-16 00:12:37]:

> Hi Dhaval,
> 
> Dhaval Giani <dhaval@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > Dhaval Giani <dhaval@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > > I know that cgroup is a very well defined functionality, that is why
> > > > > dm-ioband also supports throttling per cgroup. But how are we supposed
> > > > > to do throttling on the system which doesn't support cgroup?
> > > > > As I wrote in another mail to Vivek, I would like to make use of
> > > > > dm-ioband on RHEL 5.x. 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Ryo,
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure that upstream should really be worrying about RHEL 5.x.
> > > > cgroups is a relatively mature solution and is available in most (if not
> > > > all) community distros today. We really should not be looking at another
> > > > grouping solution if the sole reason is that then dm-ioband can be used
> > > > on RHEL 5.x. The correct solution would be to maintain a separate patch
> > > > for RHEL 5.x then and not to burden the upstream kernel.
> > > 
> > > RHEL 5.x is not the sole reason for that.
> > > 
> > 
> > Could you please enumerate the other reasons for pushing in another
> > grouping mechanism then? (Why can we not resolve them via cgroups?)
> 
> I'm sorry for late reply.
> 
> I'm not only pushing in the grouping mechanism by using the dmsetup
> command. Please understand that dm-ioband also provides cgroup
> interface and can be configured in the same manner like other cgroup
> subsystems.
> Why it is so bad to have multiple ways to configure? I think that it
> rather gains in flexibility of configurations.
>

The main issue I see is user confusion and distro issues. If a distro
compiles cgroups and dmsetup provides both methods, what method
do we recommend to end users? Also should system management tool
support two configuration mechanisms for the same functionality?
 

-- 
	Balbir
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