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Message-ID: <4AB76BBB.3040703@vlnb.net>
Date:	Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:04:11 +0400
From:	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@...b.net>
To:	"Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@...ux-iscsi.org>
CC:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@...erlog.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@...wisc.edu>,
	Joel Becker <joel.becker@...cle.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@...asas.com>,
	Florian Haas <florian.haas@...bit.com>,
	Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@...bit.com>,
	Lars Ellenberg <lars.ellenberg@...bit.com>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...o99.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/19] A kernel-level configfs enabled generic target
 engine for Linux v2.6.32

Nicholas A. Bellinger, on 09/19/2009 02:07 AM wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> This is the second round of request for comments for TCM/ConfigFS v3.2 from lio-core-2.6.git.
> Thanks to the folks who made comments, and I again invite people to take a look and make
> recommendations on how the code can be futher improved to use the best available upstream
> interfaces.
> 
> Also, the standalone patches for TCM v3.2 are now available from:
> 
> http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/nab/target_core_mod-patches/
> 
> The first posting from 09112009 can be found here:
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125272088024636
> 
> The changelog since the posting on 09112009, which can be found here:
> 
> *) Convert to struct mutex for struct sempahore initialized with init_MUTEX() (mentioned by Daniel Walker)
> *) Convert to struct completion for struct semaphore initialized with init_MUTEX_LOCKED() (mentioned by Daniel Walker)
> *) Convert to use Kbuild instead of Makefile for drivers/target/ (mentioned by Boaz Harrosh)
> *) Use include/asm-generic/div64.h for unsigned long long division on 32-bit architectures
> *) Use include/linux/math64.h for unsigned long long modulo on 32-bit architectures
> 
> The lio-core-2.6.git tree can be found here:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/nab/lio-core-2.6.git;a=summary
> 
> More Information about Target_Core_Mod/ConfigFS, and PR and ALUA:
> 
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/index.php/Target_Core_Mod/ConfigFS
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/index.php/Persistent_Reservations
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/index.php/ALUA
> 
> The complete v3.x TCM CLI operations set can be found here:
> 
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/index.php/Lio-utils#v3.1_TCM_CLI_operations
> 
> Instructions and examples for getting setup:
> 
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/builds/docs/LIO-3.0-Users_Reference_Manual.pdf
> http://www.linux-iscsi.org/index.php/Howto#Start_target_core_mod

Nicholas,

In the previous iteration of this patchset I asked you some essential 
questions about what advantages TCM has over STGT which can't be 
implemented in STGT and can justify the move from it to TCM, as well as 
how did you test TCM to claim that TCM is generic and, hence, can work 
with hardware target adapters (http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/9/15/315). 
There was no reply answering those questions, instead you keep pushing 
your patches. (In fact, I received privately even 2 very emotional and 
offensive replies from Nicholas Bellinger.)

So, since there is no reply, I didn't miss anything and there are no 
points to justify the move from STGT to TCM, and TCM is "generic" only 
for software iSCSI targets.

For sake of completeness, I should also mention that the move from STGT 
to TCM is not a move forward, it's a move backward, because TCM doesn't 
allow creation of backend and target drivers in user space.

Hopefully, somebody more authoritative than I will ask you to stop 
pushing your patches until you address the above questions.

Vlad
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