lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:32:36 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"richard@....demon.co.uk" <richard@....demon.co.uk>,
	"jens.axboe@...cle.com" <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: regression in page writeback

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:28:32AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:17:58 +0800 Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 08:54:52AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:22:20 +0800 Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Jens' per-bdi writeback has another improvement. In 2.6.31, when
> > > > superblocks A and B both have 100000 dirty pages, it will first
> > > > exhaust A's 100000 dirty pages before going on to sync B's.
> > > 
> > > That would only be true if someone broke 2.6.31.  Did they?
> > > 
> > > SYSCALL_DEFINE0(sync)
> > > {
> > > 	wakeup_pdflush(0);
> > > 	sync_filesystems(0);
> > > 	sync_filesystems(1);
> > > 	if (unlikely(laptop_mode))
> > > 		laptop_sync_completion();
> > > 	return 0;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > the sync_filesystems(0) is supposed to non-blockingly start IO against
> > > all devices.  It used to do that correctly.  But people mucked with it
> > > so perhaps it no longer does.
> > 
> > I'm referring to writeback_inodes(). Each invocation of which (to sync
> > 4MB) will do the same iteration over superblocks A => B => C ... So if
> > A has dirty pages, it will always be served first.
> > 
> > So if wbc->bdi == NULL (which is true for kupdate/background sync), it
> > will have to first exhaust A before going on to B and C.
> 
> But that works OK.  We fill the first device's queue, then it gets
> congested and sync_sb_inodes() does nothing and we advance to the next
> queue.
> 
> If a device has more than a queue's worth of dirty data then we'll
> probably leave some of that dirty memory un-queued, so there's some
> lack of concurrency in that situation.

Yes, exactly if block device is not fast enough. In that case
balance_dirty_pages() may also kick in with non-NULL bdi.

Thanks,
Fengguang
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ