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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0909231025120.22657@makko.or.mcafeemobile.com>
Date:	Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>
To:	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...hos.com>
cc:	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"viro@...iv.linux.org.uk" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	"alan@...ux.intel.com" <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"hch@...radead.org" <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: fanotify as syscalls

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:

> Yeah, you could do something like kauth on OSX, which is I guess similar to 
> LSM, which was turned off for out of tree. And now you want to push users of 
> fanotify out of tree, so what should it be? In tree bad, out of tree bad? 

As I said before, the good of a syscall tracing approach, is that it is a 
completely generic mechanism (extensible for other kind of hooks too), 
with minimal kernel impact, while allowing its module-users to stuff all 
the code they want in the part that it's their responsibility.
So that a "we need this too" gets translated to "just do it in your code", 
instead of a request to add more stuff into the kernel, and maybe altering 
the userspace access interface (which is always painful).



- Davide


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